Lauren and Chan are so excited to be chatting with Heather Dubrow from Real Housewives of Orange County! They dive into the double standards of plastic surgery, and what constitutes a sexy upgrade vs. a taboo procedure (1:26). Heather shares her wisdom on becoming the best version of yourself (3:46), getting through tough parenting stages (8:55), and raising children who are grateful instead of entitled (13:19). Heather talks about her marriage and her advice on nurturing a long-term relationship(20:23). She gives the exclusive scoop on her and Terry’s living situation and what is next for their home (30:04). Heather mentions it all, down to opening up about the tweaks and procedures she has had done and which practitioners she would recommend (36:07). Heather dishes on her diet and exercise regiment, including what has been the biggest game changer in her life (40:30). Finally, Heather answers some rapid-fire questions, including her thoughts on Tamra’s RHOC antics, a behind the scenes peek at Housewives production, and what she is working on next (44:37).

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This week we are deep diving into the lives of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK, Jr. and their iconic American romance. Who exactly was Carolyn before she waltzed into JFK Jr.'s glittering orbit? What exactly made the American prince forego his supermodel habit in favor of a normal girl from White Plains, New York? How did Jackie O. feel about her son as he rose to prominence as the American sex symbol of his time? Why was Carolyn two hours late to her own wedding? And what happened on the fateful night when they met their untimely demise? We answer these questions and much, much more. Buckle in, bb's!

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds to chat about the top celebrity moments of 2024, jaw-dropping blind items, and celebrity predictions for 2025. They discuss the problematic cast of That 70’s Show (5:06), as well as a must-read celebrity memoir. They dive into the year’s top celebrity breakups (12:22). Kelli reveals an interesting theory on Taylor Swift’s connection to the Kansas City Chiefs (19:01). They pull back the curtain on how PR plays out in celebrity relationships, including their tinfoil hat theory on Taylor Swift’s relationships (23:13). They shine a light on celebrity pap walks (34:17). They break down which celebrities are struggling to adapt to the ever-changing definition of celebrity (37:15). Finally, they give their take on the VPR re-boot and the current season of RHONY (49:21). Listeners can find Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds anywhere you listen to podcasts or at Patreon.com/BeyondTheBlinds

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Lauren and Chan share updates and happenings that are both very New York in nature. The gals share their sadness over the end of the Eras Tour and what they think is coming next for Taylor. (10:37) They dive into the story that has gripped the nation, the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson and the arrest of Luigi Mangione, including the lesser-known manifesto that gives additional insight to his alleged motive. (15:52) Finally, they discuss recent news of Jay-Z being named in the Diddy lawsuit, Jay-Z’s response, and thoughts on associating with the morally bankrupt. (40:49)

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Lauren and Chan are joined by their dad, family law attorney John Bledsoe, where they chat about some of Hollywood’s most contentious and unique divorces:

The discuss Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s divorce and whether parental alienation took place (3:12), Gossip Girl’s Kelly Rutherford and Daniel Giersch’s trans-continental divorce and alleged child abduction (26:45), and Kevin Costner and Christine Baumgartner’s contentious divorce, where the argument of “luxury is in their DNA” didn’t fall on sympathetic ears (40:23).

Plus, John answers some rapid-fire Q&A about pre-nups, filing for divorce, children of divorce, and the secret to staying married.

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Welcome to The Trial of David Foster, where Lauren and Chan examine this Canadian songwriter & producer's marriages and misdeeds. Listen as the gals dive into David's five marriages to discuss his relationship patterns and the toll it has taken on those in his orbit. Join Lauren and Chan as the judge, jury, and executioner regarding this man's bad behavior, complete with the gals' take on why David hated being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills + why they think he and Yolanda Hadid (wife #4) split. Finally, listen in as Lauren and Chan discuss the interview where Katherine McPhee (wife #5) tells the tale of her and David's love. Buckle in, because this is a trial you won't want to miss.

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Sammi Cohen, a rising star in the world of financial and business content creation who bridges the gap between Wall Street and pop culture. She is known for her deep dives where she breaks down and demystifies complex financial concepts and uncovers what's really happening with today's biggest brands.

Together they discuss:

What happened to Outdoor Voices (4:16)

The fall of the female founded “girl boss” brands (19:49)

Venture Capitalist roles in building a brand (26:58)

The rise and struggles of Glossier (32:11)

Kourtney Kardashian’s problematic brand, Lemme (41:18)

The death and resuscitation of mall brands (50:02)

Find Sammi Cohen on Instagram and TikTok at @sammicohentalks, as well as her weekly newsletter “Social Currency”.

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Lauren, Chan, and returning guest Joe Peacock are diving in to chat about the biggest misconceptions and unrealistic expectations that romantic comedies have given them, from jobs and apartments to the way a partner should be expressing their love. Lauren, Chan, and Joe take a look at some of the rom coms that have lied to them the most: You’ve Got Mail, Runaway Bride, Pretty Woman, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, and more. They also chat about the rom com male archetypes and why rom com writers have set women and men up for disappointment. Finally, Chan shares where she was looking for her perfect meet-cute to happen, Lauren recalls a time where she tried to create a rom com moment in her life, and Joe shares his dream of dating someone adjacent to a certain celebrity.

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