Lauren and Chan are so excited to be chatting with Heather Dubrow from Real Housewives of Orange County! They dive into the double standards of plastic surgery, and what constitutes a sexy upgrade vs. a taboo procedure (1:26). Heather shares her wisdom on becoming the best version of yourself (3:46), getting through tough parenting stages (8:55), and raising children who are grateful instead of entitled (13:19). Heather talks about her marriage and her advice on nurturing a long-term relationship(20:23). She gives the exclusive scoop on her and Terry’s living situation and what is next for their home (30:04). Heather mentions it all, down to opening up about the tweaks and procedures she has had done and which practitioners she would recommend (36:07). Heather dishes on her diet and exercise regiment, including what has been the biggest game changer in her life (40:30). Finally, Heather answers some rapid-fire questions, including her thoughts on Tamra’s RHOC antics, a behind the scenes peek at Housewives production, and what she is working on next (44:37).

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This week we are deep diving into the lives of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK, Jr. and their iconic American romance. Who exactly was Carolyn before she waltzed into JFK Jr.'s glittering orbit? What exactly made the American prince forego his supermodel habit in favor of a normal girl from White Plains, New York? How did Jackie O. feel about her son as he rose to prominence as the American sex symbol of his time? Why was Carolyn two hours late to her own wedding? And what happened on the fateful night when they met their untimely demise? We answer these questions and much, much more. Buckle in, bb's!

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Lauren and Chan are joined by Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds to chat about the top celebrity moments of 2024, jaw-dropping blind items, and celebrity predictions for 2025. They discuss the problematic cast of That 70’s Show (5:06), as well as a must-read celebrity memoir. They dive into the year’s top celebrity breakups (12:22). Kelli reveals an interesting theory on Taylor Swift’s connection to the Kansas City Chiefs (19:01). They pull back the curtain on how PR plays out in celebrity relationships, including their tinfoil hat theory on Taylor Swift’s relationships (23:13). They shine a light on celebrity pap walks (34:17). They break down which celebrities are struggling to adapt to the ever-changing definition of celebrity (37:15). Finally, they give their take on the VPR re-boot and the current season of RHONY (49:21). Listeners can find Troy and Kelli from Beyond the Blinds anywhere you listen to podcasts or at Patreon.com/BeyondTheBlinds

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