In this episode of Out of Interest, Ali and Muzza sit down with Dr. Ali Abdo — 3x Olympian, osteopath, and one of the most respected wrestling figures in Australia.

From representing Australia on the Olympic stage to now mentoring the next generation of young athletes, Dr. Ali shares a deeply personal journey of sacrifice, discipline, and cultural pride. But more than just athletic success, this conversation explores what’s being lost in today’s combat sports — and why discipline, respect, and character still matter.

Topics covered include:
– What it really takes to reach the Olympics
– Wrestling vs. jiu-jitsu: the technical breakdown
– The brutal reality of cutting weight for competitions
– Whether chiropractors are a scam (from an osteo’s perspective)
– Why Australia doesn’t value athletes like other countries
– The influence of his father and the role of faith
– Wrestling’s role in MMA and modern sport
– What training in Japan taught him about respect and punctuality

Dr. Ali doesn’t just speak from experience - he speaks from the heart. Whether you’re an athlete, coach, parent, or just someone trying to live with more purpose and grit, this episode is a must-listen.

🎧 Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major platforms.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!

This week, we sit down with rising motorsport star James Wharton, an Australian racing driver making waves in Formula 3 with his sights set on Formula 1. From moving to Italy at just 10 years old to joining the Ferrari Driver Academy, James shares his journey, the sacrifices he’s made, and the brutal reality of what it takes to reach the top of motorsport.

In this episode, James gives an inside look at the highly competitive world of junior formula racing, explaining the intense speed jumps from F4 to F3 and why every tenth of a second matters. He breaks down the pay-to-play reality of Formula 1, revealing how sponsorships and financial backing can make or break a driver’s career. As part of Ferrari’s elite program, he talks about the pressure vs. privilege of having the backing of a top team and how that shapes his approach to racing.

James also opens up about the mental and physical demands of competing at the highest level, the loneliness of moving overseas so young, and the European vs. Australian racing mindset. He shares what it was like signing his first F3 contract, the excitement of finally racing in Melbourne, and why Formula racing is more competitive than ever—right down to F4. With a laser focus on reaching F1, he breaks down what he needs to do next and how he plans to make it happen.

A must-watch for F1 fans, motorsport enthusiasts, and anyone who wants to understand what it really takes to climb the ranks of professional racing.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!

2025 marks a defining moment for Hejaz, and this episode is your exclusive behind-the-scenes look at what’s next!

After an unbelievable year of growth, Hejaz Founder & CEO Hakan Ozyon joins the boys for an eye-opening conversation about scaling a business beyond borders, breaking new ground in Islamic finance, and the details behind the companies expansion to Bahrain.

With Hejaz expanding into major global markets, this isn’t just another business update, it’s a blueprint for what’s possible when you push the limits. From building Australia’s only AAOIFI-recognised Islamic finance company to disrupting global markets in the Middle East and London, Hejaz is proving why they are in a league of their own. This episode dives into the risks, rewards, and relentless ambition behind our next big move.

What’s Inside This Episode?

What’s Inside This Episode?

• Scaling from Local to Global – Hakan and the team reveal the challenges of taking Hejaz from a small to medium-sized business to a major international player.
  
  
• The Middle East Demand is Surging – Find out why investors in the Gulf region are welcoming Hejaz with open arms and how their services fill a massive gap in the Islamic finance sector.
  
  
• Exclusive Recognition – Hejaz is the ONLY company in Australia recognized by AAOIFI, the world’s leading Islamic finance regulatory body. Competitors simply can’t match the level of scrutiny and compliance Hejaz has achieved.
  
  
• London Stock Exchange’s Verdict – Muzza shares a jaw-dropping moment from his chat with the London Stock Exchange, where Hejaz was named the largest independent issuer of Islamic ETFs in the world.
  
  
• The Super App is Coming – The Halal Money app is about to revolutionize Islamic finance, bringing all Hejaz services under one powerful digital platform.
  
  
• Why the Middle East is the New Global Hub – The guys break down why so many Westerners are relocating to places like Dubai and Bahrain, from better education, safety, and quality of life to a return to traditional values.
  
  

This episode is a must-listen for anyone wanting a behind-the-scenes look at Hejaz’s evolution, the future of Islamic finance, and why their move overseas is set to change the game. Don’t miss it! 🎧

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!

In this episode of the Out of Interest Podacst, we sit down with James Webb, Australia’s #1 competitive eater and ranked #4 in the world! James shares his incredible journey from a bodybuilder and corporate worker to a professional eater competing on the global stage.

We discuss his first burger challenge that went viral, his transition into competitive eating, and how he turned a passion for food into a full-fledged career. James also dives into the rigorous training, jaw exercises, and mental discipline required to compete at the highest level of eating contests, including devouring 52 hot dogs at Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest.

But it’s not just about the food – James opens up about his business ventures, from launching an apparel brand to plans for a gym-restaurant hybrid. He shares his insights on the competitive eating industry, the importance of networking, and how a strong mindset helped him overcome life-changing challenges, including a battle with Guillain-Barré Syndrome.

Prepare to be inspired, amazed, and maybe a little hungry as James gives us a taste of his wild life and what it takes to be a world-class eater!

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!

In a world dominated by social media, shifting gender roles, and evolving cultural norms, relationships have never been more complicated. In this episode of the Out of Interest podcast, we explore why modern marriages and relationships are facing unprecedented challenges. From the rise of dating apps and the "woke" movement to skyrocketing divorce rates, we tackle questions like:

• Are traditional gender roles outdated or essential?
• What does it mean to be an alpha male or beta male in today’s society?
• How has social media distorted our expectations of love and marriage?
• Why is respect the cornerstone of a successful partnership?
  
  

We also dive into the role of Islamic values in marriage and how faith can provide a strong foundation for respect, patience, and understanding in relationships. From building a home centered around faith to raising children with traditional Islamic values, we discuss how these principles can guide couples through the complexities of modern life.

Additionally, we share personal stories about navigating relationships, insights into parenting and family dynamics, and bold opinions on how modern culture impacts our most personal connections. Whether you're single, married, or divorced, this episode offers a candid look at the evolving landscape of love and partnership in 2024.
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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!

In this captivating episode of the Out of Interest podcast, we sit down with futurist, technologist, and author Steve Sammartino to explore the rapidly changing world we live in and the groundbreaking technologies shaping our future. Steve pulls no punches as he shares his bold predictions and controversial insights, offering a glimpse into what’s ahead for society, technology, and the economy.

We delve into the slow downfall of free-to-air TV and cinema, where Steve explains why their outdated business models are unsustainable in the age of streaming giants like Netflix and YouTube. He also tackles the failures of the education system, revealing how it was designed for the industrial age and why it’s no longer preparing kids for the world of tomorrow.

The conversation takes an even deeper turn as Steve discusses the rise of AI girlfriends, humanoid robots, and the unsettling ways technology is reshaping our relationships and jobs. From programmable currencies to the future of work, this episode is packed with groundbreaking ideas that will leave you questioning the status quo.

And, of course, Steve doesn’t hold back on Elon Musk, Tesla, and the hype surrounding crypto. He shares why he believes Tesla is the most overpriced car company in history, why no one will ever live on Mars, and how crypto is more about speculation than substance.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!

In this episode, we sit down with Rustam, a content creator who gave up his $200k/year accounting job to follow his passion for TikTok and helping others. Rustam shares his journey, starting out as a dishwasher in Melbourne after moving from Kazakhstan at 19. With little money, no family nearby, and his parents sacrificing everything - including selling their home to pay for his education - Rustam’s story is all about hard work, gratitude, and resilience.

He talks about leaving an unfulfilling corporate job to create viral videos that now inspire millions, including his well-known series where he pays for strangers’ groceries. Rustam opens up about the struggles he faced, from doubters to self-doubt, and how staying patient and consistent helped him find his path. His story is full of relatable lessons on building confidence, discipline, and chasing what truly makes you happy.

We also dive into his belief in giving back, his experience running his cafe, Alien & Coco, and his plans to grow his YouTube channel. If you’ve ever thought about taking a risk to follow your passion, this episode is for you.

Rustam's Socials;
https://www.tiktok.com/@rus.alien
https://www.instagram.com/rus.alien/
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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!

In this engaging episode of the Out of Interest podcast, Ali and Muzza dive deep with Nick Bell, the straight-talking entrepreneur and Shark Tank Australia investor. Nick opens up about his journey from humble beginnings to a net worth that’s a game-changer in the business world. He shares unfiltered insights on the grind of starting and scaling companies, explaining why he prefers to go solo in business and avoids partnerships that could slow him down. Nick reveals his Shark Tank experience, including some big wins, the deals he missed out on, and the criteria he looks for in a successful pitch.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Nick delves into his personal philosophies—on the power of systems over people, the importance of rapid decision-making, and his obsession with longevity and health optimization. He’s candid about his rigorous health regimen, which includes everything from red light therapy to experimental gene therapy, aimed at extending his life. And in a surprising twist, Nick talks about his unique hobby of collecting dinosaur fossils, hinting at his pursuit of a full T-Rex skeleton.

Throughout the episode, Nick’s no-nonsense attitude shines as he offers candid advice on what it takes to succeed, handle failure, and navigate the world of investing. For anyone interested in entrepreneurship, personal growth, or the balance between ambition and lifestyle, this episode is packed with invaluable insights, humor, and raw, relatable moments from one of Australia’s top business minds.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
🐦 Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/oointerest
🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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For business enquiries or if you have any questions, please email:
aozyon@hejazfs.com.au

Thanks!