What if selling before building was the key to SaaS success?In this episode, I sit down with Deepak from Sunrise AI, a seasoned B2B founder who’s built multiple companies by breaking the rules of traditional marketing and sales.Forget the typical funnel of marketing – SDRs – sales – customer success. Deepak Shrivastava (https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepak-shrivastava-3baa12/) explains why that model fails today – and what to do instead. We cover why founders must sell early, how to avoid drowning in AI-generated outreach, and what it really takes to validate your idea before wasting time on code.Whether you're pre-launch, MVP stage, or stuck in post-product confusion, this conversation offers raw, real strategies to help you win your first customers faster.#SaaSMarketing
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#CustomerDiscovery✅ Topics covered:💡 Selling before building: why it works📉 The death of the B2B funnel⚠️ Why outsourcing too early is a trap📬 Using authentic outreach to cut through noise💬 Turning rejection into insight💰 How to price – even when you're early📞 What 100+ customer conversations taught Deepak🎧 Subscribe for more tactical interviews with SaaS founders & marketers.Masterful Founders – SaaS Growth Hub ★The best marketing strategies for promotion. ★We correct marketing mistakes and increase sales.★Assistance in promoting startups using SaaS technology.Come in, watch and subscribe to the channel!We are online:➧ Website - https://masterful.info ➧ Podcast - https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/masterful-info ➧ LinkedIn of Will (Host) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilhelmlaubach ➧ LinkedIn of Chris (Host) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruehringer ➧ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/masterful.info ➧ Email - wl.interwebs@gmail.com Our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@masterful-info

What if storytelling is the most powerful marketing tool your SaaS startup isn’t using yet?In this episode, copywriting and storytelling expert Mike Garner joins host Wilhelm Laubach to reveal how SaaS founders can build trust, create emotional connections, and stand out in crowded markets—all by telling real, human stories.Whether you’re launching a new AI product or scaling your SaaS tool, learn how to move from bland, feature-heavy messaging to authentic storytelling that drives growth.🎯 In this episode, you’ll discover:- Why storytelling in SaaS marketing creates stronger customer loyalty- How to find and shape your founder story (even if it feels boring)- The difference between generic content and stories that resonate- How to collect and use customer stories as powerful social proof- Emotional hooks for “boring” B2B products- The ROI of human, soul-driven marketing💬 Whether you're a first-time founder or a seasoned SaaS marketer, this conversation will change how you see content, brand, and customer engagement.🔔 Subscribe for tactical interviews that help you scale smarter.📎 Connect with the host Wilhelm Laubach (Will)https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilhelmlaubach/ 👀 Want to connect with Mike Garner?Check out his books “Stories That Matter” and “How to Show Off”:https://www.storiesthatmatter.co/books-by-mike-garnerOr connect on https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikegarner-storiesthatmatter/

Sales isn’t something you’re born with - it’s a mindset you can build.In this episode, Mikita Martynau breaks down how early-stage founders can validate their idea, talk to the right people, and close their first clients - before even launching a product.🧠 You’ll learn how to:❌ Avoid the most common mistakes in early sales🗣️ Talk to users without sounding desperate🧩 Build your first repeatable sales process - even if you're an introvert🚀 This episode isn’t just about landing clients. It’s about creating something people genuinely want.#salesmindset #saas #saasmarketing #entrepreneurship #startups Connect with Mikita Martynau:https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikitamartynov/skarbe.comConnect with the host Wilhelm Laubach (Will)https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilhelmlaubach/