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On this episode of My Problematic Past, Lucy & Elise dive into the anti-vax movement.

In the first half of the episode (00:00-27:00), your hosts explore the history of vaccines in the U.S. and the rise of the anti-vax movement. They talk polio, the Cutter incident, “DPT: Vaccine Roulette,” Dissatisfied Parents Together, Andrew Wakefield and The Lancet paper, thimerosal, anti-vax celebs, and RFK Jr.’s infamous Rolling Stone article, “Deadly Immunity.”

In the second half (27:00–1:29:00), your hosts interview pod favorite Ari and her mom, Julie. Julie shares what it was like raising Ari in a widely anti-vax town, choosing not to vaccinate her, and later being in the news for that decision. They talk about Ari getting vaccinated as an adult, how Julie’s views shifted during COVID, and RFK, Trump, and Plandemic.

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Elise & Lucy are back with a long-awaited June State of the Union. And a lot has changed.

In this episode, your hosts talk breakups, grief, and friendship. They also discuss curses, Addison Rae, Lorde’s marketing for her new album, And Just Like That, Elise's improv troupe, Billie Eilish, JoJo Siwa and Fletcher dating men, World Pride, poison ivy, self-tanning and more.

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Elkiss and Spike, now going by their incredible legal names Elise and Lucy discuss all of the hot topic ins and outs in this April State of the Union episode: They predict who will become pope, Conclave, co-working spaces. They chat new TV shows - Handmaid's Tale last season, Black Mirror, Last of Us. They bash RFK's eugenicist ways and how it ties to the amazing people on Love on the Spectrum. Canadian nationalism is explored as Elise witnesses the tariff trade war from Canada. It's a juicy episode and a return to form! Vocally Friend 5 ever!

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