What if aliens aren’t little green men from distant galaxies… but humans from the future?

In this episode, we take on the Future Human Theory — the mind-bending idea that the beings often described in alien encounters (especially those classic big-eyed Greys) might not be extraterrestrial at all. Instead, they might be distant descendants of humanity, travelling back through time to observe, study, and (maybe) save us from ourselves.

Dan tries to piece together the clues: from UFOs hovering over nuclear facilities, to abduction stories centered around DNA collection, to anatomical features of the so-called “aliens” that suspiciously line up with our projected evolution. Rox, naturally, is skeptical and ready with her usual toolkit of sarcasm, roast energy, and wildly better instincts.

Along the way we cover:

• Why future humans might look eerily like the classic alien image

• Real military incidents involving UFOs and nuclear missile shutdowns

• Telepathic downloads, binary codes, and Rendlesham-level weirdness

• Whether we’re all just living in the timeline version of a health inspection

• And if the Greys might just be... us, after 10,000 years of soy protein and internet arguments

We even experiment with AI-generated visual models of what humans could look like in 3,000 and 10,000 years — and yes, it gets creepy fast.

Plus: swamp gas makes a comeback (of course it does), and Dan attempts to prove once again that all the weirdest stuff we laugh at… might actually be the most grounded in science.

This episode is a blend of speculative science, bad behavior, and big questions about time, evolution, and why aliens are so obsessed with nukes.

If you like your alien theories with a side of existential dread and dumb jokes, this one's for you.

🎧 Listen now, and decide for yourself:
Are they here to help us… or stop us from screwing it all up?

In this episode, we’re heading to Phoenix, Arizona, circa March 13, 1997, where thousands of people looked up and saw something they couldn’t explain. Known today as the Phoenix Lights, this is one of the most famous UFO sightings in modern history — and possibly one of the most misexplained.

Dan is convinced this was a mile-wide alien craft cruising silently across the night sky, blocking out the stars, moving slower than a parade float. Rox, however, proposes a much more grounded theory: that the entire city was high on swamp gas. (To be clear, Phoenix is a desert. Logic has already left the building.)

We dive into the timeline of events — from the mysterious V-shaped craft spotted by trained pilots in Prescott, to the hovering lights caught on dozens of home videos over Phoenix. We talk about the sheer size of what witnesses claimed to see, how slowly it moved, and the utter silence that came with it.

Was it a stealth aircraft? Flares dropped by the military? A mass hallucination? Or a visit from something not-of-this-world that nobody has explained, even 25 years later?

As usual, expect:

• Poorly researched but passionately delivered arguments

• Suspicious amounts of confidence in dubious sources

• A couple disagreeing their way through UFO history with love and sarcasm

So grab your tinfoil hats, hold your breath in case it’s methane, and get ready for Uninformational Factoid Observers, Episode 4 — where the lights were real, the explanations weren’t, and someone probably owes Arizona an apology