Mark introduces the topic by reading the definition and symptoms

As much as the guys believe it to be real, it’s also funny

Jim asks Mark what “Psychic pathology” means and he takes a shot

Jim shares his opinion about friends and family that seem to struggle with this

Jim talks about his mom. She exhibits physical manifestations

Mark thinks this physical reaction indicates a pretty severe condition

Jim calls it impulsive

Mark calls Trump insensitive and crass. He’s a fighter and not a politician

Mark talks about one friend who is very smart, but can’t remain objective when Trump’s name comes up

Both guys say they’ve never seen anything like it

Neither guy feels that he’s a bad guy. He’s not treated fairly in their opinion

Neither guy is interested in defending Trump

Mark says if you can’t talk about this guy without losing your shit…it’s likely some form of mental illness

Both guys are more interested in issues than personality

Jim shares another story about his mom and common ground. He also doesn’t tell people who he voted for

He also shares his daughter’s experience and some friends

Mark says people are more nuanced. Liking one issue doesn’t necessarily put you in any other groups, but people do assume and presume

Mark asked Jim’s opinion on what the political climate is like living in California

Mark shares his opinion on living in Florida

Mark shares his experience wearing a Trump shirt

Both guys are entertained by people with TDS

Jim says, in CA people take immediate positions. Red team or blue team

He shares his recent encounter with a woman who got emotional when she discovered Jim’s friend was a Trump guy. She mellowed a bit after getting into the discussion. She expressed pride in being an “American”

The woman brought up the pending law in Texas about hanging up the 10 Commandments in public schools

Jim’s position is against it and Mark disagrees

Mark shares his view of how nuanced this woman was after getting deeper into the discussion

People aren’t as obvious as they might seem to be

Both guys respect people with strong positions. That stand for something and have some humor and self deprecation. Jim has no time for the passive aggressive people who get lost in emotion. He seeks common ground

Mark reminds people that Trump behaves on purpose. It’s a strategy that people with TDS don’t even understand

Jim’s friend asked her where she was from and she dug into being an American

The discussion became more interesting after a few drinks

Mark cites this an another example of why we can’t assume things about people and their beliefs

Mark feels that Trump has repositioned the US as a strong nation

Jim explains the political landscape of different areas of CA. Red and blue areas

Jim voted more against the blue team than he did for the red team. He feels his vote didn’t matter, but he also believes in voting. His was a “protest” vote

The guys introduce the 10 Commandments topic that this woman asked about

Jim agreed with the woman. No religion in the school

Mark disagrees. He feels that the US was founded on Judeo Christian values so putting the Commandments in schools is OK. It’s different than teaching religion

Both guys add context to their positions. They agree to disagree go deeper into their respective positions

Mark shares the 10 Commandments and each guy gives his thoughts about each and some of the hypocrisy around sins

Mark feels like the TDS people hold Trump to a higher standard than others

Mark share the last 7 Commandments and suggests they would provide for a good life without the religious flavor

Mark feels that Christianity can’t be watered down

Mark shares his position on his faith and his awareness that other people might push their beliefs on others

He shares his opinion on Notre Dame’s celebration of Pride month and his response

He shares his response about the difference between “accepting” others and “promoting” others