If you work in adtech, you'll know Terry as the guy responsible for most of the M&A that's happened in the last two decades. And that he does highly topical and incisive parody videos that are some of the best marketing in what is generally a pretty dry industry. Behind all that, he's been a comedian for 50 years.

We dive into "what's the deal with the parody videos?" and get a sense of how Comedian Terry and Banker / Thought Leader Terry are all the same authentic self that has differentiated him and driven his incredible success.

Gavin is unapologentically a musician. But maybe it wasn't always like that: while he's been in bands his whole life (current one here), like many of us, he used to wonder how much of that side of himself to reveal. Is the wall between creative and "business guy" ever there for a good reason? We discuss.

Also check out his other musical project where he engineered and mixed. https://thejaguarclub.bandcamp.com/album/close

Michael Nevins made a career in advertising, adtech, and music tech that led him to start his consultancy (and podcast!), Kick & Snare LLC. But before that, he helped manage the band Living Colour.

How did a front row seat to massive rock stardom in the late 80s lead him to advertising, tech, and where he is today?

s/o to https://jazzwahi.org/ where Michael volunteers doing live sound. Check them out!

"Cult of Personality" by Living Colour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0