Colin is joined by Nick Wright, host of “First Things First”!

They begin by discussing that hyperathletic stars rarely win titles and why that bodes better for SGA than Ant in the playoffs (4:00). Colin explains that NIL has fortified college hoops and infused the sport with overseas talent, and argues that OKC should use rather than trade their treasure trove of draft picks (11:00)… but Nick offers a word of caution about OKC becoming a dynasty (14:45).

They try to identify how many NBA players are more famous than Caitlin Clark, and it’s a short list…and Nick argues that die hard WNBA fans are confusing the popularity discussion with “best player” discussion… and Clark’s skill hasn’t lapped her popularity (24:00). Sticking with the fame discussion, they pivot to Baker Mayfield being far less popular and famous relative to the level of football he’s been playing (32:00).

They discuss several “enigma” quarterbacks, where they can’t decide whether they’re great or not…including Jordan Love, CJ Stroud and Justin Herbert (35:00). They highlight several “what-if” moments in NFL history and wonder if Herbert will be able to shake off his terrible playoff performances in the future (46:00).

They dive into how best to parse individual success in team sports, and debate whether USC removing the Notre Dame game from their schedule is worth breaking their longstanding rivalry and tradition (58:30).

Finally, they debate whether the Chiefs have replaced the Cowboys to become “America’s Team” (1:18:00), and Nick explains his experience “parachuting” into the world of professional poker (1:30:00).

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Colin is joined by Jason Timpf, host of “Hoops Tonight” to break down all the NBA playoff action!

They start with the Knicks overcoming a huge Pacers lead and give kudos to Karl-Anthony Towns for putting on an all-timer of a fourth quarter (3:30). They highlight the Pacers offense being “shook” after the Knicks late run and unable to recover (9:00) They both agree the series SHOULD be 2-1 and discuss the trend of teams winning consistently on the road this postseason (14:00).

They pivot to the Wolves destroying the Thunder in game 3, and debate whether it was a fluke or something for OKC to worry about (24:00). They point to the Thunder’s unique style of play and swarming defense as part of what makes them so tough to beat, but explain why they are a vulnerable team when playing on the road (28:00).

Colin compares the Pacers to the Nuggets championship team and questions whether they can have sustained success, and Jason argues the Thunder could potentially win multiple titles but the window is short (33:30).

Finally, they discuss the insane stat that Caitlin Clark is responsible for over a quarter of the WNBA’s revenue and more than tripled the value of the Indiana Fever and whether Clark is a “billion dollar athlete” (46:00). They weigh in on the Steph Curry comparisons, predict she’ll be the best player in the league in a year or two and explain how the WNBA make the most out of marketing their biggest star (52:00).

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Colin reacts to the Indiana Pacers beating the New York Knicks in Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals. He gives his takes on Jalen Brunon, Pascal Siakam, Tyrese Haliburton and Karl Anthony-Towns. Is it over for New York? Colin explains why he thinks the Pacers are the best team in the NBA.

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