Come for the glow worms, stay for the rants! In this episode of Untidy, Hannah’s dialling in from the road, three-quarters deep into a 12-night solo parenting road trip around Northland, while Matty’s enforcing home renos by pulling the place apart.

But, it’s not all laughs and sandboarding, as the girls get stuck into discussing the motherhood penalty after receiving a gut-punch of an email from a listener echoing the the reality of so many women juggling caregiving with careers. The rage is real. So is the systemic failure.

In a loop back to serendipity, the girls chat about how some of life’s greatest gifts come in the weirdest packaging and end on a sexy sidebar salivating over storage solutions.

Links mentioned in the show:

• Listen to Smashing the motherhood penalty with Emma Mclean on Spotify
• Listen to Smashing the motherhood penalty with Emma Mclean on Apple podcasts

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