The Swans sink to a new low, the Hok-ballers cough up ad-hoc effort, Melbourne "kick themselves to death", and we ask which acronym do the Saints need more: NWM or TDK? All that and more must-listen footy chat in this week's Real Footy podcast with Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Sam McClure.

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Libby Birch, Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan look back at the players they should have taken and those they regret picking in our pre-season super draft before tipping round 12. Are the Hawks a sneaky chance against the rampaging Pies? How much of an impact is the change of coach having on the Swans? And is the Demons' bounceback the real deal?

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Peter Ryan and Andrew Wu fail the maturity test as they discuss the route to victory for Carlton, the hardest game of the round to tip and why Essendon should be in the eight right now.

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Michael Gleeson, Caroline Wilson and Jake Niall discuss nepo babies, combative coaches and the Demons' revival. Plus, the issues that were exposed in North Melbourne's loss to the undermanned Pies, the Hawks' midfield problem and are the Blues good enough to turn their season around from here?

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Caroline Wilson, Michael Gleeson and Jake Niall pay tribute to Adam Selwood and Robert Walls as the football world mourns their deaths.
The panel also looks back at the shock wins of round 10, the Bulldogs' premiership hopes, the leadership issues at AFL House and much more.

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40/20 is a brand new NRL podcast from The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. During this year's State of Origin and Finals series we'll be breaking down the biggest stories from across the game with the best journalists and NRL insiders from around the country. We'll be giving you press pass access as we breakdown the latest news, controversy and performances from the biggest matches in the Rugby League calendar. To listen to our episodes as soon as they drop follow 40/20 wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan discuss footy fortresses, why Collingwood fans have reason to be confident against the Crows and the Bulldogs’ consistency in 2025.

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Caroline Wilson, Michael Gleeson and Jake Niall discuss a super Sunday of thrillers, the Demons’ decision to play Clayton Oliver in a tagging role, Justin Longmuir’s future as Fremantle coach and the AFL’s leadership issues.

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