Keely Carolan, a twenty-three year old rock climber and climbing coach, nearly lost her vocation and avocation when her body started to break down. Instead of giving up her dreams, she learn how to slow down, listen to her body, and embrace life at a new pace. You will be encouraged by her story of rising from the ashes to living out this new wisdom so early in life.

Cami and Amanda talk about times and ways music helps them tap into their deep joy. When we are sitting in the ashes, we often distract ourselves from the pain and discomfort, which can be health... to a point. Learn the difference between distraction and turning your attention to the under-current of passion within you.

Shannon Knight is a psychotherapist, host of The Tarot Diagnosis podcast, and the creator The Symposium, a community of tarot and psychology. Can you use symbolic tools to help you through the ashes?

Shannon is also the author of two work books, with a third coming soon: Dark Shadow, Golden Shadow exploring shadow work through tarot.

How do you talk to your beloved aunt about politics? What do you do when a good friend says something you cannot imagine they believe? We live in polarizing times. But that doesn't mean we have to lose out on relationships which are important to us! Cami and Amanda riff on ways to help with the most difficult conversations.

Cami and Amanda talk about what how even the helpers need help from time to time. Where do you turn when hope that you have held onto (sometimes for ages) in a certain area fades away? How do you know when to let go of hope and look for another answer? Info on the group coaching program at phoenix-lessons.com

Brooke Warner is passionate champion of authors and co-host of the Write-minded podcast. She started her publishing career in 2000 and worked for traditional publishers for 13 years. In 2012, she left her job as Executive Editor of Seal Press to co-found She Writes Press. She tells the story of why she left traditional publishing in her TEDx talk: “Green-Light Revolution.” Find out more at brookewarner.com

Cami and Amanda riff on how hard it is to be patient in the ashes. How do you handle not knowing what is coming next or when that next phase will begin?

Colleen Haggerty, author of A Leg to Stand On: An Amputee's Walk Into Motherhood, discusses her journey through losing her leg in a car accident and subsequent path to forgiveness and freedom. Colleen now uses her hard-won wisdom to help others as a Soul Tender. Find out more at colleenhaggerty.com or watch her Tedx Talk: Forgiving the Unforgivable.