In this lively and insightful episode of Out of Patients, host Matthew Zachary sits down with Mariana Arnaut, Founder and CEO of The After Cancer, a groundbreaking platform helping cancer survivors navigate the uncharted waters of life post-treatment. Joined by his sharp and witty Chief of Staff, Jen Ramprasad, the trio dives into the gaps in survivorship care, the rise of "cancer retail," and the moral dilemmas of monetizing support services for the cancer community. Mariana also shares the story behind Cards Against Cancer, a clever spin on the popular party game that has sparked meaningful—and sometimes hilarious—conversations within the cancer survivor community. From the challenges of living in Portugal to the wild world of U.S. healthcare, this episode is a mix of humor, humanity, and hard truths.

RELATED LINKS

• The After Cancer
• CancerCon
• American Cancer Society's Report on Survivorship Costs
• Connect with Mariana Arnaut

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What happens when two fresh-faced Gen Zers—Matthew Zachary Worldwide Chief of Staff Jenisa Ramprasad and Marketing Intern Lauren Woodring—sit down with a cranky, nostalgia-fueled Gen Xer (ahem, Matthew Zachary)? Chaos, hilarity, and surprisingly deep insights.

This is not your typical Out of Patients episode.

What started as a casual, unscripted chat turned into a generational therapy session touching on everything from floppy disks, cassette tapes, and AOL chat rooms to TikTok-induced existential crises and frenetic media consumption with no "ohio baby gronk rizz" or "skibidi toilets". (Whatever that means)

Why are Gen Zs so quick to cut off friends? Can you really form deep bonds with someone you've never met in person?

And what was the deal with Blu-rays anyway? (Thank you, Producer Kyle Moore, for your added insights) We tackled all the questions, shared plenty of laughs (awkward and intentional), and even found common ground in our shared love for real, human connection.

If you've ever felt caught between the "back in my day" crowd and the "why does everything move so slow?" generation, this episode is for you.

Prepare to channel your inner dope/phat/fresh inner teenager while cringing to pop culture mansplaining, and maybe even feel inspired to unplug for a minute (but only after you finish listening, of course).

RELATED LINKS

Jenisa Ramprasad on LinkedIn

Lauren Woodring on LinkedIn

SUNY Binghamton University

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It’s the annual Out of Patients tradition you didn’t know you needed—Matthew’s miracle IVF twins, Koby and Hannah, are back on the mic for their 5th appearance! These famous 14.5-year-old personalities are here to make you laugh, reflect, and maybe even sing the alphabet incorrectly (spoiler: they hate the new version). Dive into a delightful blend of sibling banter, high school stories, Broadway show recaps, and unexpected eyebrow-shaving anecdotes. Whether it's Koby’s law class revelations or Hannah’s set design dreams, this episode captures the chaos, charm, and brilliance of two teens navigating life—and making their dad immensely proud. Prepare for laughter, nostalgia, and some genuine moments of gratitude that will leave you smiling. So, tune in for the podcast episode, which is as much a gift to listeners as it is to the proudest dad in podcasting!

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When life hands you a cancer diagnosis, you grab a camera. Anna and Jordan Rathkopf turned their battle with HER2-positive breast cancer into a groundbreaking photojournalistic journey. Join Matthew Zachary as he chats with the Rathkopfs about their book, HER2: The Diagnosed, The Caregiver, and Their Son, their nonprofit work, and the absurdity of pink-washed cancer campaigns. It's a raw, funny, and heartfelt discussion about navigating illness, caregiving, and the power of authenticity in art and life.

RELATED LINKS

• Anna Rathkopf on LinkedIn
• Jordan Rathkopf on LinkedIn
• Daylight Books
• Upcoming Exhibitions: Check out their nonprofit work at PCAC.ngo.

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In this full-circle conversation, Matthew Zachary sits down with Amy Sutton, Executive Director of Crossroads4Hope, to dive deep into the evolution of cancer support and the profound legacy of organizations like the Wellness Community. From reminiscing about pre-internet cancer advocacy to envisioning a future rooted in public health and equity, this episode explores the human side of care in ways only Matthew can deliver—with wit, humor, and an unfiltered lens.

Amy shares her journey from working at Rand McNally (yes, the map company) to becoming a torchbearer for cancer patients, caregivers, and survivors. They tackle everything from the challenges of sustaining local cancer support services in a digital-first world to how the healthcare system neglects the psychosocial needs of both patients and caregivers. Together, they unpack the crucial role of social workers, the necessity of caregiver inclusion, and why navigating life post-cancer diagnosis demands more than just clinical solutions.

Whether you’re a cancer survivor, caregiver, healthcare professional, or just someone trying to make sense of this messy world, this episode promises insights, laughs, and plenty of Gen X nostalgia. Plus, find out why Matthew thinks we should stock up on Rand McNally maps for the apocalypse.

Be sure to check out Crossroads4Hope’s groundbreaking Professional Development Conference in March 2025, where Matthew will be the keynote speaker. More details at MatthewZachary.com/C4H.

RELATED LINKS

• Crossroads4Hope Website
• About Amy Sutton

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In this highly anticipated follow-up, we welcome back Jon Nelson, the man who went from battling relentless, treatment-resistant depression to becoming a pioneering advocate for mental health. Jon’s journey with deep brain stimulation (DBS) wasn’t just a breakthrough; it was a total game-changer. Now, with “robots in his head” pumping 23 million pulses a day, Jon’s mission has evolved from mere survival to a full-throttle campaign to ‘Pulverize the Stigma.’ We delve into the shocking realities of stigma, outdated treatments, the price of mental illness on families, and how a bold middle finger to societal norms is long overdue.

RELATED LINKS

• Jon's First Episode: "Robots In My Head: Deep Brain Stimulation"
• Jon's Website
• "Jon Nelson: Five Things I Wish Someone Told Me When I Was First Diagnosed With Mental Illness"
• "Today’s Depression Treatments Don’t Help Everyone"
• "#37: Jon Nelson – DBS for Depression Saved My Life: Defying Stigma in Mental Health"

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In this hilariously heartfelt episode, Matthew Zachary sits down with his long-time friend and cancer warrior, Jonny Imerman, the trailblazing founder of Imerman Angels. With candor and camaraderie, they explore the raw truths of cancer survival, sharing stories about the “two bald Jews” throwing wild Young Adult Cancer Happy Hours, and the life-changing impact of Jonny's peer mentorship organization. From organ-holding contraptions in surgeries to the myths around “losing the cancer battle,” the two dive deep into what it really means to live, survive, and thrive. Don’t miss this legendary chat, packed with laughs, life lessons, and a healthy dose of 90s nostalgia.

RELATED LINKS

• Imerman Angels
• ClozTalk
• Stupid Cancer
• Cancer Buddy

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In this episode, host Matthew Zachary dives into the history and mission of Cancer Hope Network (CHN) with Executive Director Beth Blakey and Program Officer Marielle McLeod, a young adult cancer survivor. Founded in 1981, Cancer Hope Network is a vital peer support organization that connects cancer patients and caregivers with mentors who’ve been through similar journeys. Beth and Marielle share insights on the unique value CHN offers, including the impact of one-on-one mentorship and the importance of culturally relevant support for underrepresented communities. Join us for an honest, thoughtful, and occasionally humorous look at how CHN supports patients and caregivers across the cancer journey.

RELATED LINKS

- Cancer Hope Network

- Connect with Beth Blakey

- Connect with Marielle McLeod

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