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In this episode of NeBiznis, Rob chats with Tom Cockerill, founder of Cockrell and Co. and host of The UK Flooring Podcast. Tom shares his rollercoaster journey from building a successful flooring business to losing everything—house, cars, business—and then rising again to create a thriving consultancy that now supports flooring businesses across the UK.

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Chapters

• 00:00 – Intro & Meet Tom Cockrell
• 03:12 – Tom’s Business Journey
• 08:08 – Lessons Learned & Asking for Help
• 13:15 – Mental Health & Mindset in Business
• 17:34 – Podcasting & Keeping It Real
• 22:00 – Make or Break: The Mindset Course
• 26:10 – Flooring Freedom & Client Success
• 30:00 – Life Outside Business
• 33:00 – Ice Baths, Kryptonite & Quickfire
• 36:00 – Outro

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We dive deep into the rollercoaster journey of Arron Goulbourn, founder of Heatwave Plumbing. From early dreams of becoming a car designer to dishing out mortgage advice, Arron shares how a series of twists, turns, and setbacks ultimately led him to plumbing and launching his own successful business.

We talk about the power of resilience, the realities of managing tradespeople, integrating tech into traditional services, and how outdoor hiking adventures help Arron reset from the chaos of entrepreneurship. Plus, there's a surprising amount of chat about plumber innuendos, frozen bogs, and an unforgettable night in a stone hut.

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Chapters

• 00:00 – Intro & Meet Arron Goulbourn
• 03:15 – Life as a Tradesman & Business Growth
• 08:45 – Tech That Transformed the Trade
• 13:50 – Arron’s Winding Career Journey
• 20:15 – Factory Work, Plumbing, and Starting Over
• 27:20 – From Getting Fired to Founding Heatwave
• 32:30 – Plumbing Stereotypes & Funny Stories
• 34:45 – Hiking Adventures & Mental Reset
• 41:00 – Ultra-Marathons, Greg’s Hut & Ice Cream Kryptonite
• 46:00 – Plumber Jokes, Superpowers & Wrap-Up

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Join host Rob Baines (from ⁠⁠Rob-Cam Productions⁠⁠) as he chats with Katie, a solicitor at Evans & Co., about the realities of working in family law and conveyancing, while juggling major life events like her upcoming wedding. Katie shares her journey into law, the emotional highs and lows of her work, and offers honest advice for aspiring solicitors, particularly the importance of building connections and learning through real-world experience.

Beyond the legal talk, we touch on wedding stress, honeymoon plans in Mexico, dog-friendly pubs, chocolate addictions, and guilty-pleasure TV shows. Rob and Katie bond over creative passions, shared career pressures, and their mutual love of storytelling (with a surprise Doctor Who connection thrown in!).

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