Louis De Jaeger - SOS: Save Our Soils

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Louis De Jaeger - SOS: Save Our Soils

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Today I'm talking with Louis De Jaeger author of SOS: Save Our Soils. You can also follow on Facebook. A Tiny Homestead Podcast is sponsored by Homegrowncollective.org. Muck Boots Calendars.Com If you'd like to support me in growing this podcast, like, share, subscribe or leave a comment. Or just buy me a coffee https://buymeacoffee.com/lewismaryes 00:00 You're listening to A Tiny Homestead, the podcast comprised entirely of conversations with homesteaders, cottage food producers, and crafters, and topics adjacent. I'm your host, Mary Lewis. A Tiny Homestead podcast is sponsored by Homegrown Collective, a free to use farm to table platform, emphasizing local connections with ability to sell online, buy, sell, trade in local garden groups, and help us grow a new food system. You can find them at homegrowncollective.org. Today I'm talking with Louis de Jaeger in Belgium. 00:29 and he's an author of a book called S.O.S. Saving Our Soils. Good. I don't know what time it is in Belgium. Good day, Louis. How are you? No, very happy to be here on your podcast. It's so nice. What time is it in Belgium? It's 10, 12 here in Minnesota. Well, it's 5 p.m. 5, 12 here. So almost time for dinner. OK, so good afternoon to you, Thanks. Good morning. 00:58 Thank you. So I was very surprised when you reached out to ask about being a guest on the podcast. And then I saw what you do. And all my surprise went away because you are trying to save the earth by teaching people about soil. Exactly. And so I would love to know what your background is and why you got involved in this in the first place. Yes. So 01:25 I actually have two grandmothers that grew up on farms and they had to move from the countryside to the city because there was actually no future anymore for farming. that actually influenced me until a point that when I was 18 years old, I actually wanted to become a farmer. The only 01:48 problem was is that I didn't have land anymore in the family and land is like super expensive in Belgium. It's around 100k per hectare or like, let's say 40k per acre. And so that wasn't really an option for me. And I was kind of curious about why that is, how things are going. And also was thinking about what kind of farmer would I like to become. 02:16 For that, really was looking for answers and the more I kept looking for answers, the more I realized that the farming system worldwide is actually pretty screwed. that the way we farm today is a lot of the reasons we farm today as we farm today is because of governments, of lobbyists pushing us in certain directions. actually nobody's winning, only big corporations and not the farmers themselves and certainly not 02:46 not the consumers. So yeah, we need to do something about that urgently. Okay, that explains the drive for you to write this book and do all the other things you've done over the last, I don't know, 12 years. And you're only 31. Yeah, correct. You're baby. My daughter's 35 and she's the oldest of four. So yeah, you could be my kid. 03:16 So what I want to know is in all your travels, because I know you've traveled a lot looking at your website, who is doing it the best out of the worst? Well, the good news actually is that I've traveled to like half of the states in the United States. I really love America. I've also traveled to Canada, to Central America, South America. 03:41 And every country that I visited, there are farmers that are really showing that it's possible to grow crops, very high yields and taking care of the planet at the same time. And also not unimportantly having more profits than their neighbors. So that's actually the good news that there's no one country doing better. are just like a lot of pioneers 04:09 spread across the world, spread across the United States as well. if more people would know about them, if more farmers would see that, like a farmer living only 50 miles away is like, gone by one Porsche car every year because of the savings and pesticides, then more people will make a transition to a more natural way of farming. Well, I'm glad that America doesn't 04:39 fall way down at the bottom because I live in America. And my husband is a gardener. He does a farm to table garden. It's 100 feet by 150 feet. It's a little garden. We're not a farm. We're a homestead. And he uses no pesticides, no herbicides, no chemical fertilizers. As close as we get to chemical fertilizers is our chickens manure. 05:08 And it works. mean, when we don't get rain for six weeks from May to the middle of June, like we did last year, we have a really beautiful, productive garden to the point where we have too much and we sell it. Wow, that's great. So it can be done on a small scale. For sure, we're doing it. But how do farmers who are doing it big scale handle this? Because 05:37 For a long time in America, it has been all about weed control and pushing bigger ...