In this heartfelt and luminous conversation, Jessica welcomes Veronika Robinson — funeral celebrant, astrologer, and author — for a deep, compassionate dialogue on death, grief, and the power of honoring life transitions with presence and care. Together, they explore:• what it means to be a celebrant• the emotional and energetic intricacies of holding space for grieving families• astrology’s role in understanding death and loss• their personal experiences of losing their mothers• and how to stay connected — to the earth, to loved ones, and to ourselves — in the wake of profound change.

With tenderness, humor, and intuitive wisdom, Jessica and Veronika open up a rarely shared space for soulful conversation around mortality, spiritual connection, and the beautiful, often mysterious ways our ancestors continue to speak to us.

Whether you’re grieving, supporting someone through loss, or simply curious about the deeper meaning of death, this episode offers both comfort and insight.

✨ Includes a guided grounding practice to begin.

ABOUT US:

Veronika Robinson is a second-generation astrologer, author, celebrant, celebrant trainer and founder of Penrith’s first Death Café. Veronika is the author of Write That Eulogy and Funerals for Children. You can explore Veronika’s writings and work at www.veronikarobinson.com.

Jessica Shepherd is an author, astrologer, healer, intuitive, and teacher of energy awareness. In addition to Soft Human Words and the podcast Soft Human Voice, she shares energy tips, wellness insights, astrology guidance, quotes and art from her books and divination deck on IG and Facebook.