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It’s an exciting moment in the bar, as Kate and Greg welcome their first guest to Judgemental-podcast. Audrey McGibbon is an eminent thought leader in the world of leadership wellbeing, and the perfect person to tackle the complexity of the wicked problem of leader wellbeing.Can leadership wellbeing be measured? If it can be, why measure it? And what does leadership wellbeing have to do with psychosocial risk management?All these questions and more are explored as Greg, Kate and Audrey navigate the conversation in typical “Judgemental-podcast”….no silver bullets, honest reflections and different perspectives to challenge thinking, and increase safety and psychological literacy.This episode addresses the many complexities of how leaders and leadership intersect with psychosocial risk, and presents meaningful (so therefore not simplistic) ideas on how to respond. Grab your liquid of choice, and enjoy the company of Kate and Greg in the second episode of the deep dive conversations focussed on leadership wellbeing. Connect with us:LinkedIn – Kate ConnorsLinkedIn – Greg SmithLinkedIn – Audrey McGibbonLinkedIn – EMLLinkedIn – Mutual Benefits Program Resources:Elemental Psychology & Coaching websiteGreg Smith – Safety Books Proving Safety and Paper SafeGLWS websiteEML websiteEML Psychosocial resources – Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/ Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a barSpotifyAppleAmazonYoutubeBe sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message. This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets. For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.Click here for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.