In this episode of Leadership with Heart, I sit down with Tracy Nolan, Senior Vice President of MarketPoint at Humana, for a candid and powerful conversation about what it truly means to lead with both strength and compassion.

Tracy has spent her career guiding large teams through complex transformations, including overseeing 14,000 employees during the merger of Sprint and T-Mobile at the height of the pandemic. Her ability to remain focused on people, even in the most high-pressure environments, is what sets her apart. This is a conversation about rejecting the myth that caring is soft or ineffective. Tracy shows that empathy and accountability can not only coexist but also fuel one another.

She shares stories of leading through layoffs with humanity, building trust through weekly listening sessions, and constantly preparing her teams for the future by investing in their growth and readiness. Tracy discusses openly what it means to create a culture where performance expectations are clear and where people feel supported, heard, and valued. Her approach to leadership is rooted in genuine connection, honest communication, and the belief that strong leadership starts with caring about your people.

If you've ever questioned whether it's possible to lead with heart while driving real results, Tracy proves that you don't have to choose. You can do both. And in today’s workplace, doing both may be the only way to lead well.

In this episode of Leadership with Heart, I sit down with someone I genuinely admire, both professionally and personally. Kevin Eikenberry joins me to discuss his newest book, Flexible Leadership, and together, we explore what it truly means to lead with flexibility during times of constant change.

As someone who believes deeply in the power of self-leadership, this conversation is significant. Kevin and I share the belief that, while much about leadership remains the same, the context in which we lead has shifted significantly. The pace of change, the uncertainty around us, and the complexity of the workplace have all made flexibility not just helpful but necessary.

Throughout our discussion, Kevin talks about how leaders often operate on autopilot. We fall back on habits, old models, and assumptions. But authentic leadership today requires a willingness to pause, reflect, and adjust. I shared my own experiences in this regard, mainly how being open to change has enabled me to evolve through various seasons of my life and career.

We also discussed identity and how easy it is to define ourselves in rigid ways that limit our growth. Kevin offered a powerful metaphor about trees that helped me rethink what consistency means. It's not about doing things the same way every time. It's about being rooted in your values while adapting to the moment at hand.

If you've ever wondered how to stay grounded while evolving or how to remain open without losing your sense of direction, you'll find this conversation valuable. We didn't just talk about the theory. We discussed what flexibility looks like in real-life moments, both at home and at work, as well as within ourselves.

This episode is filled with truth, curiosity, and reflection that every leader can benefit from. I hope it challenges and inspires you in the best ways

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What does it take to lead with heart in one of the most demanding, misunderstood public service sectors? In this episode of the Leadership With Heart Podcast, I spoke with Billie Jo McCarley, Deputy Director of Operations at the Miami-Dade Water and Sewer Department.

From the moment I saw her speak on a panel, I was drawn to her clarity, purpose, and grounded approach to leading in a system that rarely gets the spotlight it deserves. Her words were honest, her tone firm, and her leadership style deeply human.

Billie Jo shares her journey from a union kid in upstate New York to a Marine Corps officer, and now to her executive role overseeing one of the largest utilities in the country. She brings a refreshingly straightforward style to leadership, one rooted in ownership, structure, and service. What resonated most was how she balances military precision with a deep sense of emotional intelligence and faith. Her mantra is simple: understand people, respect their uniqueness, and make hard decisions without ever stripping someone of their dignity.

We explored how she builds high-performing teams by focusing on talent, alignment, clarity, and trust. She described her people as “scrappy builders,” but also reminded us that every person comes with a story, and our job as leaders is to create a space where that story matters. Whether shifting someone to a better-fitting role or navigating tough conversations with fairness and compassion, Billie Jo never loses sight of the mission: to serve the people of Miami-Dade County with integrity and purpose.

Her belief that leadership is not about softening expectations but elevating them through care stayed with me. You can be clear, direct, and firm, and still lead with a heart full of compassion. That’s the real balance we’re all trying to strike, especially in times of uncertainty, change, and disruption.

So here’s my question: What does leadership with heart look like in your world, and how are you holding space for others while still pushing them to grow?

I would love to hear your thoughts. Share your reflections with me, and let’s continue the conversation.