The word 'transformation' is thrown around in all sorts of contexts and in all manner of attempts to sell change. The outcomes are never given, despite best laid plans, and it often falls down not because of process nor technology. The stumbling block is usually us. And it's not about the oversimplified trope of being resistant to change. On many occasions we actually want to see the change succeed - especially if it will make our lives easier. But good intentions are rarely enough.

What is often ignored in both small and large change initiatives is that success rests on the skilful way we can navigate the change process itself. Sitting in the discomfort of uncertainty; working through potentially polarising differences with our colleagues; voicing our concerns and our ideas, despite perceived risks, so that we can all generate the best possible solutions. All of these are skilful practices no one ever really teaches us, but without which we simply spin our wheels.

KG and Paul spent time in the Podcave with Jamie Gerlach, CEO of 4C Transformative Learning and 4C Organisations. Jamie and his team spend their days working with both educators and organisations, exploring the deep processes and skills required to deeply engage with change, and to bring about real transformation.

As they kick back with an amazing chilled white wine from Sicily, they take their time to really think about what it takes to build this sort of transformational muscle - occasionally distracted by the outstanding quality of the drop - a 2023 Cantine Petrosino Lucido Catarratto. No, seriously, you've got to get yourself some of this wine. It is amazing. Thanks to our friends at Annandale Cellars!

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After a welcome break over Easter (sorry we forgot to mention it!), KG and Paul get back to the podcave for an amazing conversation with Dr. Rachael Jacobs - artist, academic, activist.

You may have heard the oft repeated phrase, "Bring your whole self to work." What does that even mean? Rachael chats to our hosts about her own deep cultural reconnection through the discovery of dance, as well as how her many paths in life provide a clue to what that looks like for her.

As an artist, Rachael seeks to make spaces for the marginalised and more vulnerable. Unsurprisingly that deep set of values drive her academic practice as well as her engagement with public life through politics. And while these might seem to be incompatible practices, she is constantly striving to show up as an integrated individual, drawing from all quarters of her life to engage in the world around her.

There are clear parallels here with how we might want to embody our own leadership practices, but we'll leave it to you to pull on those threads!

This engaging and compelling conversation was well accompanied by a lip-smacking red wine from Western Australia. On this occasion, our generous friends at Annadale Cellars provided a 2022 singlefile Great Southern Cabernet Merlot blend. It is a deep, fruit driven wine with plenty under the hood. With pronounced, yet soft tannins, it has delicious dark berry flavours and a silky mouthfeel.

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Some resource from this episode:

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When many of us consider leadership and leadership practice, we may assume specific contexts (corporate, politics, the public domain), and specific ways to 'do' leadership. In fact, from accepted governance processes to the way organisations are structured and even how they might report their outcomes, effective leadership is assumed to include a set of agreed 'rules' - ways of doing this thing that we've come to expect of those in leadership positions.

But what if that doesn't work for you? What if these unquestioned norms are simply 'bollocks'?

KG and Paul explore that very possibility with Nick Finlayson, an innovative and successful business founder who has built and run a number of professional service firms in the technology sector (and a former colleague of both hosts). Throughout his career Nick has managed to straddle the divide between corporate expectation and a glaring individuality. But it's the corporate leadership stuff that slows him down. For him, it really is all bollocks.

The fact is, Nick's brain is wired a little differently, and he has learned to understand what works for him and how to adapt to and navigate corporate corridors. However, he has also been able to forge his own path and work to the rhythms of his own, very unique drum.

This is an insightful and honest conversation, shared by three longstanding colleagues over a glass of 2024 Gullyview Estate 'The Fruitful' Grenache. This wine's a bright, red berry explosion in your mouth. A lighter style grenache than Australia's warm climate might otherwise produce. Don't wait, go get yourself some from our generous friends at Annadale Cellars!!

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