We start off the show catching up on the weekend. Brond was back in the studio with Marta, cooking up new stuff—but of course, nothing’s ever easy. They discovered an issue with one of the very expensive mics. You know the one. The fancy mic. Meanwhile, Sammy and Yanko were out at the Oakland Roots home opener, and look—Sammy’ll say it every time: the Coliseum is his favorite place on Earth.

We talk Mom Jeans Summer, California headliner dates, and then we somehow jump from Sacramento to Birmingham, Alabama in a 24-hour span for Furnace Fest 2025. Then, we do a deep dive into the world of Mother Selene—art direction, vibe creation, and the beautiful joy of building a whole aesthetic from scratch.

Then we slide into our very first Errors & Grievances (some of you had thoughts, and yes, we do need to apologize), and we wrap it all up with the Mailbag shoutouts, questions, and a few curveballs from our beloved listeners.

It’s Episode 4. It’s “The Juice.” Thanks for being part of this little thing we’re building.

Yanko survives a near-death driving experience, then we dive into “My Recent Obsessions”—Ibanez guitars, one song on repeat, and Sammy’s passionate (and concerning) love for cold cheese from In-N-Out.

Then, Chain’s debut record No Spirit is out! We celebrated the right way—by rolling up to Chain Reaction with a Blackstone grill

And Just Friends is making a new record! Bart Thompson (Mom Jeans, Chain) is producing, and we’re deep in the lab making a punk rock dance party

Finally, the mailbag! We love your questions, we love you, and we can’t wait to do it all again next time.

Magic of Tajín: Mom Jeans, Metal, and Mother Selene

We kick things off with a gift from the heavens—Brond’s signature egg sandwich, featuring mayo mixed with Tajín. A perfect choice.

Then, in The Most Current Thing Happening, Sammy’s band, Mom Jeans, just got announced for Aftershock 2025. Yes, the same festival packed with metal and hardcore bands. Emo at Aftershock? Sacramento’s getting adventurous, and we’re here for it.

Next, Brond takes us deep into her new doom project. She just wrapped a studio session with Marta from Pure Hex—an absolute dream collaboration. Also, fun fact: Marta and Sammy basically grew up together because their parents are besties. We dive into the magic of recording with another powerhouse vocalist and what it’s like getting creative in the studio.

And then? We take a sacred pause to discuss snacks—because life is about balance.

Finally, The Mailbag. The heart and soul of the show. Your questions, your stories, your chaotic brilliance from Discord and beyond.

That’s it. That’s the episode. We laughed, we recorded, we ate, and we definitely didn’t forget the Tajín. Enjoy!