It's the last episode of this series of Muses: An Ampersand Podcast, and so Emma (You're Dead To Me) and Dan (Bastille) are here to talk about the roles of narrators in art and academia. Can you write about people and communities to whom you don't have personal connection? What are the ethics of storytelling? Where do you start with telling someone else's story? All of these questions are reflected in Dan's song Intros & Narrators, which you can hear on Bastille Presents... "&": https://bastille.lnk.to/ampersandstore.

Recorded at London's Bush Hall, this slightly longer than usual episode sees Dan and Emma joined by BIM, who co-wrote The Soprano & Midnight Wonderings with Dan, to talk about their song in particular, and songwriting in general. There are live musical performances, and Dan plays more excerpts from his homework - demos of unfinished songs inspired by the conversations we've had earlier in the series. There's also a surprise POP QUIZ with the best damn jingle you've ever heard, and there's even time for some questions from the audience (apologies to all those we didn't get to).

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Muses: An Ampersand Podcast is presented by Dan Smith and Emma Nagouse. It was produced by Emma Nagouse and Ed Morrish for Lead Mojo productions.

Episode cover photo was taken by Joe Horridge.

Series cover photography by Bo Morgan, taken at the Walker Art Gallery, in Liverpool

Series cover design by Chris Barker

Series pisode artwork by Harriet Bruce

Recorded at Bush Hall.

Recorded and mixed by Miles Wheway

Thanks to Dr. Melissa Gustin for arranging the location for the series cover art, and to Moira Mack and Charlie Barnes for their help with the jingle. Thanks to all the staff at Bush Hal, especially Sarah, Lara, Letitia and Iain.

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