Business advice from a guy who bought a real estate HQ the same way most of us find a garage sale—saw a crooked sign, kicked off the mud, found a rock with a key under it, and said “Yeah, this feels right.”

John Crow joins the show for a masterclass in doing business the old-school way: with integrity, grit, and apparently, livestock. (Camels. There were actual camels.)

From Beverly Hills mink-coat breakdowns to turning a busted old building into the community’s North Star, John talks about building a business that actually serves people, what it means to show up for your kids, and how being a farm boy somehow prepared him for everything from A-list celebrities to parrot-lady counseling sessions.

This one’s about real estate, real life, and real talk over herbal tea (because caffeine makes John too powerful).

In the debut episode of In Between Sips, Ryan and Mike crack a cold brew and dive into the wild origin story of Family First Intervention—how it grew from one guy on a pool table phone line into the nation’s largest intervention company. They talk scaling through Google ads, dodging bad advice, calling out the BS in the treatment industry, and why most of the chaos doesn’t come from the addicts—it comes from the families. It’s blunt, funny, and filled with hard-earned wisdom from the front lines of addiction and entrepreneurship.