In this heartfelt episode of From Husbands to Dads, Stephen and Bret open up about their unexpected move from Texas to Florida—yes, another red state—but one that already feels more welcoming. They candidly discuss what led to the decision, the emotional rollercoaster of leaving their first family home, and the challenges of moving with a toddler (including major meltdowns and amusement park mishaps).

From navigating career uncertainty to solo parenting during Disney contracts, the Broadway Husbands reflect on what it means to start over in midlife—as dads, artists, and partners. They also highlight the subtle wins—like making queer connections at playgrounds and how a supportive community can change everything.

Whether you're planning a move, parenting through transitions, or just need a dose of real talk and reassurance, this episode is a vulnerable and honest window into life beyond the curated Instagram square. Spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and full of hope.

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• Kit
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• Kathy Fraeman
• Britney Crosson

In this powerful episode, we’re joined by Luce Remy, Director of Policy at Family Equality, to talk about the challenges LGBTQ+ families face in today’s political and social climate—and what it really means to be an accomplice instead of just an ally.

We cover:

• How anti-LGBTQ+ legislation is affecting schools, surrogacy, and adoption
• What to ask your school to ensure inclusivity for all families
• Personal stories from Luce’s advocacy work and parenting journey
• What families (queer or not) can do to create safer, more inclusive spaces

We also share our own update about beginning the journey for baby #2 and how Maverick’s love for flowers brought unexpected joy to our week.Want to be our next hero? Check out Nodal to register to help a family. https://tinyurl.com/broadwaydads-nodal

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• Sharon Machrone
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• Jordan Hamessley
• Kit
• Shelly Mark
• Dallas
• Kathy Fraeman
• Britney Crosson

Thinking about building your family through donor conception? In this episode, we sit down with Lisa Schuman, founder of the Center for Family Building, to demystify donor-assisted reproduction for LGBTQ+ families. From legal questions to emotional readiness to how to choose a donor — this is a must-listen for anyone exploring this path to parenthood.

Follow Lisa and her community and check out https://familybuilding.net/ to see all the amazing resources available.

Also listen to Lisa on her podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1iPTI62w2fANnkOLaSjsCe

Creators & Guests

• Sean Wilkinson - Editor
• Frank Galgano - Composer
• Matt Castle - Composer
• Lisa Schuman - Guest

Special thanks to Matt Castle and Frank Galgano for our amazing theme song.

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• Brendan BitIer
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• Kathryn Floyd
• Sharon Machrone
• Cynthia Dreeman
• Jordan Hamessley
• Kit
• Shelly Mark
• Dallas
• Kathy Fraeman
• Britney Crosson

If you’ve ever considered adoption — or been overwhelmed by it — this is the episode you need.

Brian Rosenberg, founder of Gays With Kids and GWK Academy, joins us to debunk myths, share facts, and give insight into the adoption process, especially for LGBTQ+ families.

We talk about:

• The real barriers (and breakthroughs) in LGBTQ+ adoption

• Foster care, international, and domestic routes — and how they differ

• What birth parents are really like (spoiler: they're not scary)

• Why adoption doesn’t mean 'less than' — it just means different

Plus: Brian shares the emotional moment he knew his adopted son was 100% his.

Brian Rosenberg is the founder of GWK Academy Family Building, a non-profit spin off of the popular Gays With Kids website and virtual community he launched in 2014. Brian is very excited to share the news of GWK Academy’s upcoming expansion plans. Soon they will announce that they now support all paths to family-building for the entire LGBTQ+ community. visit GWKAcademy.org

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• Kathryn Floyd
• Sharon Machrone
• Cynthia Dreeman
• Jordan Hamessley
• Kit
• Shelly Mark
• Dallas
• Kathy Fraeman
• Britney Crosson

We open up about our journey from performing on Broadway to raising a child in a world that often wasn’t designed for families like ours.

We talk about:

• Parenting as a two-dad family
• Feeling "othered" in mom-centric spaces
• Creating (and losing) a gay dads group
• Dealing with trolls, assumptions, and parenting pressure

This isn’t just a podcast about gay dads. It’s about parenting with intention, joy, and authenticity.

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• Dallas
• Kathy Fraeman
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Welcome to the Husbands 2 Dads Podcast—where Broadway meets fatherhood!

Join Bret and Stephen, the duo behind @BroadwayHusbands and proud dads to their son via surrogacy, as they share candid conversations about parenting, marriage, mental health, and life in the spotlight. Each episode dives into the joys and challenges of being two dads raising a family, while navigating careers in the entertainment world and beyond.

Follow along for heartwarming stories, laughs, and real talk by following us on Instagram: @husbands2dads and @broadwayhusbands. Want exclusive behind-the-scenes content, bonus episodes, and more? Subscribe to our Substack at broadwayhusbands.substack.com!

• Linda
• Brendan BitIer
• Diane Small
• John H Uhrhammer
• Kathryn Floyd
• Sharon Machrone
• Cynthia Dreeman
• Jordan Hamessley
• Kit
• Shelly Mark
• Dallas
• Kathy Fraeman
• Britney Crosson