Today’s threat actors and social engineers leverage social media to observe individuals’ patterns and habits. They encounter you at a coffee shop or another familiar spot. They begin to establish trust, which makes you more susceptible to their tactics.

Today’s guest is Peter Warmka. Peter is a retired CIA officer with over two decades of breaching the security of organizations overseas in pursuit of intelligence. He is the founder of The Counterintelligence Institute, author of two books, conference speaker, consultant, and educator on the dangers of human hacking.

• [0:56] - Peter shares his background and what he has done in his interesting career.
• [3:27] - The Counterintelligence Institute helps organizations and individuals understand what types of information threat actors are trying to steal.
• [6:08] - Peter discusses the surprise his friends and family experienced when learning he had been working for the CIA.
• [9:13] - There are some skills that Peter had to learn when going into this career, but other skills came more naturally.
• [11:15] - Trust is different in various societies, and Americans are particularly vulnerable.
• [13:31] - Peter explains how he developed trust with others.
• [16:00] - There are ways to leverage trust in this type of work.
• [19:32] - Peter discusses international breaches and the types of intelligence breaches from other governments.
• [23:11] - The internet has made information so readily available to everyone, including information you may not want them to have.
• [25:19] - There are different types of information found on the different kinds of social media platforms that all come together to paint a whole picture.
• [28:09] - Human hacking, or social engineering, can be accomplished through five different communication channels.
• [31:21] - Peter describes a very powerful and common in-person scenario.
• [35:53] - We have to get away from the silo-approach, thinking that breaches are only coming from the IT network.
• [37:24] - Peter wrote a book in the early days of Covid-19 for organizations. He then wrote a book geared more towards individuals.
• [39:41] - Privacy and security settings are great, but platforms can still be hacked.
• [41:56] - It shouldn’t be “trust, then verify.” It needs to be “verify, then trust.”
• [44:27] - AI tools have made things even more complicated for victims and easy for threat actors.
• [46:37] - LinkedIn specifically is overwhelmed with fake accounts.
• [48:50] - Workplace education on this topic is backwards in organizations since they are seen as compliance training.

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