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Rob and Johnny are joined by Matt Metcalf, the former Sportsbook Director of Circa Sports and now the Chief Risk Officer at Mojo. Matt played a key role in shaping the sportsbook industry as we know it and tells all in this in depth interview which dives behind the scenes of the Circa trading room. Looking to beat the player prop market? Betstamp Pro saves you time and resources by highlighting edges across real-time sportsbook feeds. Leverage the most efficient true line in the industry and discover why Betstamp Pro is essential for top-down bettors. To preserve edges, only a limited number of spots are available to purchase Betstamp Pro. Don’t wait — apply for your free 1-on-1 product demo at betstamp.com/circlesoff Make sure to subscribe to the Circles Off YouTube channel for more strategic betting content and drop a like/rate five stars if you enjoyed Matthew Trenhaile episode 1 ➡️ https://youtu.be/fAYrhzaiMiM Matthew Trenhaile episode 2 ➡️ https://youtu.be/U4ucta32frs On Twitter: Follow CirclesOff - https://twitter.com/CirclesOffHQ Follow Rob - https://twitter.com/RobPizzola Follow The Hammer - https://twitter.com/TheHammerHQ Follow Jacob - https://twitter.com/jacob_gramegna Follow Matt - https://x.com/MMpact 0:00 – Circles Off Ep 184 1:49 –Matt Metcalf’s exposure to betting 7:53 – Pivoting to bookmaking 11:16 - Mentors in the space 13:42 – Charles Barkley betting story 16:01 – Matt’s approach to bookmaking 20:18 - Diversifying market options 24:45 - Price discovery and what it means 29:03 - getting specific with profiling 33:47 – NBA vs NFL handle 35:06 - Betting on uncertainty 33:53 - Playing offense as a bookmaker 40:30 – The reason that lines move 42:34 – Creating “chaos” as a bookmaker 44:48 - Who can beat the Circa market? 50:33 - Does Circa limit liability? 52:03 - Game day moves that consistently lose 56:07 - How far you need to be willing to move a line 1:00:39 - The overlap between trading and marketing 1:07:57 - Would you limit this bettor? 1:24:14 - When Matt would actually limit a bettor 1:29:08 – Where sportsbooks are most vulnerable 1:31:57 – The power of same game parlays 1:36:57 - Building the ideal book 1:43:42 - What’s the “right side” to be on? 1:47:43 - +EV and -EV 2:05:21 - Advice to yourself 5 years ago If you want more from Rob Pizzola, Jacob Gramegna, and Johnny, check out the rest of their content on www.thehammer.bet NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, and so much more from some of the biggest content creators in the sports betting space. Whether it be strategies, picks, reactions, previews, or picks... we've got it all. #SportsBetting #Betting #betstamp #bettingtips #bettingstrategy #bettingstrategies #bettingadvice #gambling Circles Off podcast is an entertainment podcast. The opinions expressed in the podcast are for the purpose of discussion in the area of sports betting, online gaming and other like markets. Circles Off podcast does not condone unlawful or illegal activity, and if you are unsure of the laws in your jurisdiction surrounding these markets, please seek the appropriate legal advice about strategies that you intend to implement. Please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices