Hilary Saunders built a community of 600 top-performing real estate teams across 18 states—and did it without chasing spotlight or ego.

In this premiere episode of the EPIC Plans Podcast, we dig into:

• Growing up in a family of entrepreneurs—and raising kids the same way

• Leaving a legal career when it started costing her who she wanted to become

• Starting a law firm and a real estate brokerage—at the same time

• The moment she realized the big-box brokerage model was broken

• Why Side was born—and how she used her own business as proof before pitching anyone else

• The tension between growth and integrity, and how elite agents walk that line

• What Hilary looks for when partnering with real estate operators

• Why being “the best” has nothing to do with transaction count

This episode covers everything from discomfort and curiosity, to leadership frameworks, parenting lessons, and what it takes to build a company with actual legacy—not just hype.

🔗 Learn more about Hilary and her podcast, Own It: https://www.side.com

🎧 More EPIC Plans episodes:
https://www.buildeverythingepic.com/podcast

This isn’t a guest episode. It’s the full context—spoken, not scripted—behind what I’ve been building, why I walked away from Real Producers, and how a $9B case study turned into a trust-first AI ecosystem.

This message was originally recorded for a few trusted friends. I’m sharing it now because the podcast isn’t content—it’s a filter.

If you’re in the room, or near the edge of it, this explains the whole arc.

No pitch.
Just presence.

Mitch Felix
Founder, Felix Intelligence
https://www.buildeverythingepic.com/aboutepic

Recorded at 2:56 AM on April 16, 2025—this is the moment I realized the system I’d quietly built wasn’t just helping me function… it was protecting me.

In this episode:

• How I architected a trust framework using GTD, Evernote, and AI

• Why macro-incentives matter more than motivation in 2025

• What it means to thread integrity without becoming a target

• How neurodivergent design became my superpower—not a liability

• And why “just because it looks strategic doesn’t mean it wasn’t art”

This is for the builders doing deep work while the world sleeps.
For the operators protecting what matters.
And for anyone designing systems that remember—especially when their org forgets.