In this eye-opening and deeply healing conversation, I’m joined by Debbie Mirza, bestselling author of The Covert Passive-Aggressive Narcissist, to explore one of the most confusing and devastating relational dynamics: covert narcissism.

We dive into the subtle signs of manipulation, why highly empathetic and spiritual people are often the targets, and how covert narcissists use spiritual language, fake empathy, and even sexuality to undermine your self-trust. Debbie also shares what healing actually looks like after this kind of relationship—how to become the safest place for yourself, rewire your understanding of love, and rebuild a connection with your heart that no one can take from you.

This conversation is for you if you’ve ever felt drained, confused, or like you’re “too sensitive” in a relationship—and especially if you’ve been taught to doubt your intuition in the name of growth.

Connect with Debbie:

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Top Episode Quotes:

"Covert narcissists aren’t obvious—but your body always knows the truth."

"Healing is about becoming the safest place possible for your own heart. That’s where the power starts to come back."

"Love will never confuse you, drain you, or make you question your worth. Love brings peace—not chaos."

"Unsolicited advice, spiritual superiority, and weaponised 'wisdom'—those are red flags, not guidance."

"You were not too sensitive. You were being used. And now, you get to come home to yourself."

Covert Narcissism, Narcissistic Abuse Recovery, Trauma Healing, Debbie Mirza, Spiritual Manipulation, Self Trust, Emotional Abuse, Narcissistic Traits, Nervous System Healing, Empath Boundaries, Somatic Healing, Deep Within Podcast

In this episode, I explore what it really means to let go—from a nervous system perspective, not just a spiritual one. We’re often told to “detach” or “just let it go,” but when you’re clinging to something for survival—be it a relationship, money, validation, or identity—that kind of advice feels impossible, even cruel.

I share how attachment strategies develop from early childhood experiences, how they shape the way we hold on (often desperately), and what it looks like to gently shift into a place of self-trust and inner safety. This isn’t about bypassing or rushing—it’s about meeting the part of you that’s clinging with compassion, nervous system awareness, and time.

Whether you’re navigating the end of a relationship, a big transition, or just feel stuck in a loop of longing and fear, this episode offers a grounded, embodied path forward.

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TRIGGERED TO ROOTED: A ROADMAP TO CREATE TREASURES FROM YOUR TRIGGERS

This powerful step by step process will walk you through how to somatically move through a trigger, ground yourself, allow the emotions to come up and experience massive growth in your life

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Top Episode Quotes:

"The part of you that’s clinging was born for a reason—it helped you survive. It’s not wrong. It’s wise."
"Letting go isn’t something we do with our heads—it’s something the body slowly learns to do when it feels safe enough."
"If you’re desperate for something, your nervous system is in a survival state. That’s not weakness. That’s an imprint."
"People feel your nervous system before they hear your words. If you’re in desperation, they’ll feel it—even if you smile through it."
"True release comes when the clinging part of you trusts you more than it trusts the person or thing it’s holding onto."

Attachment Healing, Trauma Informed, Nervous System Work, Letting Go, Clinging Patterns, Inner Child Healing, Somatic Healing, Embodiment, Emotional Regulation, Self Trust, Relationship Anxiety, Deep Within Podcast

In this episode, I’m exploring a topic that hits so close to home for so many of us—avoidant attachment and the ways we subtly (and not-so-subtly) numb out when intimacy, connection, or conflict feel overwhelming.

If you find yourself scrolling instead of walking in the door, staying late at work to avoid closeness, or completely shutting down during an argument—you’re not broken. You’re protecting something tender. I unpack how avoidance is often a nervous system strategy rooted in early pain, how we carry unmet childhood needs into our most intimate relationships, and why numbing out is a form of survival, not failure.

We’ll also dive into gentle, practical ways to begin shifting these patterns, including rituals, somatic practices, and communication tools—and I’ll guide you through a powerful reflection practice to help you identify the need hiding underneath the urge to shut down.

This episode is here to remind you: You want connection. Your body just needs safety first.

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TRIGGERED TO ROOTED: A ROADMAP TO CREATE TREASURES FROM YOUR TRIGGERS

This powerful step by step process will walk you through how to somatically move through a trigger, ground yourself, allow the emotions to come up and experience massive growth in your life

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Top Episode Quotes:

“Avoidance is not a personality trait—it’s a strategy your body learned to keep you safe.”

“We don’t numb out because we don’t care. We numb out because feeling would bring us too close to the pain we’ve been avoiding.”

“Your nervous system isn’t wrong for freezing. It’s doing what it was taught to do when love didn’t feel safe.”

“If you’ve ever stayed late at work, scrolled outside the house, or ghosted your own needs—that’s a clue. There’s something tender underneath.”

“You don’t have to bulldoze through fear to heal. You can walk slowly toward it, one safe step at a time.”

#AvoidantAttachment #AttachmentHealing #NervousSystemRegulation #SomaticHealing #EmotionalNumbing #ConflictAvoidance #HealingChildhoodWounds #RelationalTrauma #SomaticPractices #DeepWithinPodcast #HeartSpaceCommunity

In this episode, I’m diving deep into the intersection of trauma and spirituality, and why so much of what we see in the modern spiritual space can be deeply harmful, especially for trauma survivors.

I explore how spiritual bypassing shows up in well-meaning practices, how analyzing our pain without actually feeling it keeps us stuck, and why healing isn’t about avoiding the shadow, it’s about moving through it, fully embodied.

You’ll hear my honest reflections on the spiritual “positivity-only” trend, the danger of working with untrained practitioners, and the transformative power of truly trauma-informed practices that allow us to cry, grieve, scream, shake, and finally shift the patterns that keep repeating.

This one’s raw, real, and a call to stop sugarcoating healing, and instead, do the work that actually changes lives.

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TRIGGERED TO ROOTED: A ROADMAP TO CREATE TREASURES FROM YOUR TRIGGERS

This powerful step by step process will walk you through how to somatically move through a trigger, ground yourself, allow the emotions to come up and experience massive growth in your life

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Top Episode Quotes:

“You’re attracting situations not with your mind—you’re attracting them with your body and your nervous system.”

“Healing isn’t about bypassing the pain—it’s about going back and finally feeling what couldn’t be felt before.”

“I’m so allergic to dishonesty and avoidance, especially when it’s dressed up as spiritual wisdom.”

“People don’t want to do the hard emotional work, so they spiritually bypass and say, ‘just think positive.’

“Yes, trauma brings lessons—but if you don’t feel it, you won’t heal it. You’ll just repeat it.”

#TraumaInformed #SpiritualBypassing #SomaticHealing #EmotionalHealing #ShadowWork #AuthenticSpirituality #InnerChildHealing #SpiritualGrowth #Somatics #NervousSystemHealing

Welcome to episode 100 — a milestone that brings with it a deeply personal reflection. In this solo episode, I open up about what it means to feel like the black sheep in your family, the pain of not belonging, and the protective walls we build to survive.

I dive into how ancestral trauma, identity, and political disillusionment have shaped my internal world and why visibility often feels like a threat rather than a triumph. This is about being real with the parts of ourselves that feel like too much, about navigating belonging when no place feels safe, and about choosing self-trust, even in the messiest moments.

If you’ve ever felt like your voice is too loud, your truth too disruptive, or your pain too inconvenient — this one's for you.

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TRIGGERED TO ROOTED: A ROADMAP TO CREATE TREASURES FROM YOUR TRIGGERS

This powerful step by step process will walk you through how to somatically move through a trigger, ground yourself, allow the emotions to come up and experience massive growth in your life

Download here:⁠ ⁠https://marinayt.com/trigger-2-rooted⁠⁠

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Top Episode Quotes:

“In order to be seen, you actually have to be out there — and that’s where the fear lives.”

“I’ve spent my whole life feeling like the black sheep — too deep, too intense, too much — and yet I’m done shrinking to fit in.”

“There is a wall between me and every man I’ve ever loved, and that wall is their unprocessed shame.”

“I want to be seen by people who are willing to look at their own shit, not project it onto me.”

“You can’t walk through someone else’s door for them. You can only stand in your truth and wait to be met.”

#Podcast100 #BeingSeen #BlackSheep #AncestralTrauma #HealingJourney #VisibilityFear #SomaticHealing #JewishIdentity #PalestineIsrael #InnerWork #Belonging #SoloEpisode #MarinaTriner #HeartSpace #DeepWithinPodcast

In this illuminating conversation, I sit down with Dr. Siv Jøssang Shields, co-founder of Neurogenic Integration and longtime leader in the world of trauma healing and nervous system regulation. Siv shares how the body stores trauma—not just as memory, but as energy—and how neurogenic tremoring can help us release old patterns, restore flow, and reconnect with our innate intelligence.

We explore the deep wisdom of the nervous system, the power of somatic work, and the importance of bringing pleasure and curiosity into trauma healing. Siv’s grounded presence, vast experience, and intuitive insights make this a truly powerful episode for anyone on a healing journey.

If you’ve been curious about TRE, somatic practices, or how to access deeper safety and resilience through your body, this conversation is a must-listen.

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Top Episode Quotes:

"Trauma isn’t what happens to us—it’s what stays stuck in the body when we don’t have enough support to process it."

"The body has its own timeline for healing. When we stop rushing it, we finally begin to listen."

"Neurogenic tremoring allows the body to do what it was designed to do—discharge and regulate, without needing a story."

"We’re not here to bypass pain. We’re here to move with it, befriend it, and let it guide us toward deeper regulation."

"The body’s language is sensation. If we can learn to trust it, we open the door to real transformation."

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In this episode, I share the truth behind my commitment to six months of dating myself, and why this isn’t just about being single, but about radically choosing me.

After a lifetime of being in relationships, I’ve never truly had the space to be with myself, listen to my needs, and unlearn the patterns that kept me disconnected from my voice, my desires, and my boundaries. This journey is about making space for grief, pleasure, community, and nervous system healing. It’s about asking myself: What feels most nourishing right now? and actually listening.

I open up about growing up in a narcissistic home, the guilt I carried around having needs, and how those dynamics shaped my relationships. If you’ve ever felt like you lose yourself in love, or if being single feels terrifying, this episode is for you. I promise it’s not about perfection—it’s about presence, permission, and finally becoming your own source of safety.

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TRIGGERED TO ROOTED: A ROADMAP TO CREATE TREASURES FROM YOUR TRIGGERS

This powerful step by step process will walk you through how to somatically move through a trigger, ground yourself, allow the emotions to come up and experience massive growth in your life

Download here:⁠ ⁠https://marinayt.com/trigger-2-rooted⁠⁠

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Top Episode Quotes:

"Dating myself has become pleasant the moment I decided to radically stand up for myself and my needs."

"I’ve never properly been single since I was 14, and I’m 37. That says a lot."

"There’s no such thing as a wrong need. If someone can’t meet it, that’s not a reflection of your worth."

"I thought being good meant keeping my mouth shut. Now I know that being whole means honoring my voice."

"My next relationship will be different—because I will be different. And that’s what I’m working on now."

#DatingMyself #RadicalSelfLove #HealingJourney #SoloEpisode #RelationshipPatterns #InnerChildHealing #NervousSystemHealing #SomaticSelfCare #Authenticity #MarinaTriner #BoundariesAndNeeds #SingleAndThriving #HeartSpaceCommunity