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  • Episode 190: Getting Unstuck with Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo – OD Expert, Author, Academic, Entrepreneur... and All-Around Great Human

    Episode 190: Getting Unstuck with Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo – OD Expert, Author, Academic, Entrepreneur... and All-Around Great Human
    2025/04/14
    In this episode, Bob 'n Joyce sit down with someone who really knows how to spark transformation from the inside out—Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo. He’s worn a lot of hats—OD consultant, c-suite exec, academic, serial entrepreneur—and somehow manages to still be one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. Ernesto brings the kind of wisdom you only get from decades in the trenches—leading people-first cultural overhauls for companies with tens of thousands of employees, while also launching his own ventures and guest lecturing at a top-tier business school. We dig into the ideas behind his new book, Regrowth – How Organizations Can Overcome Stalling by Unlocking Their People's Potential, and trust us: this isn’t your typical corporate jargon. Ernesto drops practical, sometimes surprising insights that can help any organization—or individual—get unstuck and thrive. This convo is full of stories, laughter, and that rare mix of head and heart. You’ll hear how Ernesto helped shift cultures inside massive companies, why unlocking human potential isn’t just HR’s job, and how his journey from Mexico to MIT continues to shape his work and life. So grab a coffee. Maybe a snack. And come hang out with us—you’ll leave this one with a full brain and a full heart. 🎧 Listen in and learn: • Why most culture change efforts fall flat—and how to do it differently • What it really means to lead through ambiguity • How to move from stuck to thriving (yes, it’s possible) • Why Ernesto believes in “regrowth,” not just “growth” ✨ Connect with Ernesto: •Website : aspenmindset1.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ernesto-gómez-arzapalo-8783ab43/
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    41 分
  • Episode 0: Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast!

    Episode 0: Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast!
    2020/11/09
    Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast. Meet us, find our why we are doing this podcast, and what our hope is for you, our listeners. Don't forget to review us on Apple Podcasts, and to check out our Facebook page by searching for bobnjoyce. View more information at www.bobnjoyce.com.
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    2 分
  • Episode 189: Letting Employees Go – Do It Right or Pay the Price

    Episode 189: Letting Employees Go – Do It Right or Pay the Price
    2025/03/28
    In this episode, Bob and Joyce explore the critical importance of handling employee terminations the right way. When done poorly, these moments don’t just affect the individuals involved—they send shockwaves through the entire organization, damaging culture and trust. The conversation is sparked by the troubling trend of mass layoffs via impersonal emails, as seen recently in the U.S. government. With such cold, transactional approaches becoming more common, are we at risk of normalizing workplace incivility? While layoffs and terminations are sometimes necessary due to business demands, how they’re handled speaks volumes about an organization's values and leadership. This is where HR and OD professionals must step up to ensure fairness, dignity, and alignment with company culture. Grab a snack and join us as we dive into this crucial conversation.
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    17 分
  • Episode 188: OD Challenge: Who Do We Choose to Be?

    Episode 188: OD Challenge: Who Do We Choose to Be?
    2025/03/21
    In this episode, Bob and Joyce reflect on the evolving role of HR and OD amidst today’s profound global disruptions. Drawing inspiration from Meg Wheatley—author and organizational wellness expert—we explore the concept of creating islands of sanity in a world where many feel isolated, ignored, or overwhelmed. We discuss practical ways to build strong, sustainable work communities that foster possibility, even in the face of chaos and negativity. About Meg Wheatley’s Book, Who Do We Choose to Be? “This book is born of my desire to summon leaders in this time of profound disruption—to reclaim leadership as a noble profession that cultivates possibility and humanness in the midst of fear and turmoil.” The work ahead is not for the faint of heart, but you’re not alone. As your OD partners, we’ll be with you every step of the way. So come on in, grab a snack, and let’s dive in. Welcome!
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    17 分
  • Episode 187: Where Science Meets OD Practice – A Conversation with Dr. Rob Lion

    Episode 187: Where Science Meets OD Practice – A Conversation with Dr. Rob Lion
    2025/03/12
    In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce welcome Dr. Rob Lion, a strategist, professor, and expert in workplace culture, leadership development, and performance improvement. With a passion for helping students, business leaders, and HR/OD practitioners grow and thrive, Rob blends academic rigor with real-world experience to create sustainable, high-performance practices. His consultancy, Black River Performance Management, is built on the philosophy that success comes from applying proven models and strategies—what he calls his tools. As he puts it, “Where science meets practice.” Join us as Dr. Rob shares insights from 20+ years of experience—what’s worked, what hasn’t, and how organizations can cultivate thriving workplace cultures. Come on in, grab a snack, and enjoy the conversation! About Dr. Rob Lion Dr. Rob Lion is a seasoned expert in human resource development and organizational behavior. As a professor at Idaho State University, he has mentored the next generation of leaders while consulting with executives, business owners, and community leaders to build people-centric, high-performing organizations. Through Black River Performance Management, Rob helps organizations enhance leadership effectiveness, optimize team performance, and tackle complex workplace challenges. His evidence-based, psychology-driven approach ensures measurable, lasting results. Interested in how Dr. Rob can support your organization? Get in touch: 🔗 blackriverpm.com/contact
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    48 分
  • Episode 186: Brace for Impact: How to Survive Workplace Change

    Episode 186: Brace for Impact: How to Survive Workplace Change
    2025/03/05
    In today’s episode, Bob ‘n Joyce dive into how people react to change—especially in the workplace. If you’re a change agent or work in organizational development, you won’t be surprised by resistance to change. But what may surprise you are the practical steps you can take to minimize chaos and increase the chances of success. With most organizational changes falling short of their intended benefits, understanding how to navigate resistance is crucial. The key? Recognizing that people respond to change in vastly different ways—there’s no one-size-fits-all approach. So come on in, grab a snack, and let’s talk about the messy, unpredictable, and sometimes surprising world of change. Welcome!
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    20 分
  • Episode 185: Speaking Up or Staying Silent? Leadership in a Polarized World

    Episode 185: Speaking Up or Staying Silent? Leadership in a Polarized World
    2025/02/25
    In this episode, we tackle a conversation we’d rather avoid—but know we must have. How can leaders create the conditions for constructive dialogue in divisive times? Do they take a stand based on their company’s vision, values, and business needs, even if it alienates some? Or do they stay silent, wary of the risks in today’s political climate? We don’t claim to have “the” answer, but we do offer ideas on how to: • Prepare people for difficult conversations. • Take it slow—without turning it into an initiative or labeling it. • Act once you’re grounded in what’s real and what the company needs. • Foster a space for candid, honest dialogue. No neatly wrapped solutions here—just real talk. We think you’ll enjoy it anyway. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!
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    24 分
  • Episode 184: Lead with Intention: Make Every Moment Count

    Episode 184: Lead with Intention: Make Every Moment Count
    2025/02/17
    In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce explore the power of deliberate and intentional leadership. Too often, we miss opportunities to maximize our impact by reacting impulsively to the chaos around us. Instead of leading with purpose, we get swept up in the moment. Leading with intention means consciously choosing our words and actions to shape outcomes rather than merely responding to circumstances. This practice doesn’t come naturally—it requires patience, self-awareness, and the ability to step back and see the bigger picture. We share real-world examples and practical strategies to help you cultivate intentional leadership in both your professional and personal life. So, are you ready to take control of how you show up as a leader? Join us for this insightful conversation—grab a snack, settle in, and let’s dive in!
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    24 分