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  • Why Your SMB Needs a Data Strategy Before Adopting AI with Tim Hayden
    2024/12/21
    Are you feeling the pressure to jump on the AI bandwagon? You're not alone. As small and medium-sized businesses race to adopt AI, many are overlooking a critical step that could make or break their success. What if I told you that the key to unlocking AI's true potential for your business isn't in the latest chatbot or predictive analytics tool, but in something you already have – your data? The problem is, while AI promises to revolutionize how we do business, without a solid data strategy, it's like trying to build a skyscraper on quicksand. Many SMBs are rushing to implement AI solutions without first understanding and organizing their data, leading to disappointing results and wasted resources. But here's the good news: with the right approach to your data, you can set your business up for AI success. And that's exactly what we're diving into today with our expert guest, Tim Hayden. Tim is the CEO of Brain+Trust Partners, a strategic consultancy that helps companies navigate digital transformation. With over 20 years of experience in building and managing successful companies, Tim is a pioneering business leader known for his expertise in data-driven marketing, customer experience, and emerging technologies. He's worked with major brands like Dell, Bacardi, and AMD, and is a frequent speaker at industry events. Tim literally wrote the book on mobile commerce and has been at the forefront of digital marketing innovation for decades. Today, Tim is going to break down why a data strategy is the essential first step for any SMB looking to harness the power of AI, and he'll provide practical insights on how to get started. So, whether you're just beginning to explore AI or you're looking to optimize your current efforts, this episode is your roadmap to building a solid foundation for AI success. AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton asked Tim Hayden about: ✨ Data First, AI Second: Understanding why a solid data strategy is the foundation for successful AI adoption. ✨ Quality Over Quantity: Learning how to focus on collecting and organizing the right data for your specific business needs. ✨ Start Small, Think Big: Practical steps for SMBs to begin building their data strategy with limited resources. Learn more about Tim Hayden Connect with Tim Hayden on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode BrainTrust Partners LLC Llama Salesforce HubSpot Agorapulse Marketo Ethan Mollick Constant Contact Lastpass Dashlane Read.ai NotebookLM Gamma AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/why-your-smb-needs-a-data-strategy-before-adopting-ai/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant at The Social Media Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping marketers with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    51 分
  • Redefining Brand Strategy: AI Tools for Businesses of All Sizes with Ruheene Jaura
    2024/12/14
    Imagine having the power to create a brand strategy that rivals those of industry giants, regardless of your business size or budget. Today, we're diving into the world of AI-powered branding, where cutting-edge technology is leveling the playing field and enabling businesses of all sizes to craft compelling, professional-level brand messaging. Whether you're a solo entrepreneur, a small business owner, or part of a marketing team, this episode will reveal how you can harness AI to elevate your brand, connect more deeply with your audience, and compete effectively in today's crowded marketplace. Joining us to unpack this game-changing approach is Ruheene Jaura, a true innovator at the intersection of creativity and technology. With 16 years of experience in visual effects for giants like Cirque du Soleil and Marvel, Ruheene has seamlessly transitioned into AI-powered marketing. As the founder of heyLevi.ai, she's revolutionizing brand strategy development. Certified in digital marketing and emerging technologies, Ruheene brings a unique blend of creative vision and technical expertise to help businesses transform their branding through AI. AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton asked Ruheene Jaura about: ✨ AI Democratizes Branding: AI tools are leveling the playing field, allowing businesses of all sizes to access professional-level branding strategies. ✨ Efficiency Meets Creativity: AI streamlines the branding process, freeing up time for human creativity to focus on strategic decision-making. ✨ Adaptability is Key: As AI continues to evolve, businesses must stay adaptable and leverage these tools to remain competitive in their branding efforts. Learn more about Ruheene Jaura Connect with Ruheene Jaura on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode heyLevi Tamsen Webster The Menagerie: An Artificial Intelligence Sci-Fi Novel The AI Revolution is Here: What Every Marketer Needs to Know with Mike Allton AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/redefining-brand-strategy-ai-tools-for-businesses-of-all-sizes/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant at The Social Media Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping marketers with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    51 分
  • The Surprising Truth About AI Adoption in Marketing Teams with Corbett Drummey
    2024/12/10
    What if everything you thought you knew about technology adoption in marketing was wrong? Imagine a world where C-suite executives are more comfortable with AI than digital natives. Well, according to groundbreaking new research from Lightricks and the American Marketing Association, that world is already here. For decades, we've operated under the assumption that new technology adoption flows from the bottom up. Young professionals, fresh out of college, bring new tools and techniques to their organizations. But AI is completely flipping this script, creating an unprecedented divide in marketing teams that threatens both innovation and career growth. The numbers are startling: while 61% of executives use AI weekly, only 42% of entry-level marketers do the same. Even more concerning? 65% of executives have received formal AI training, compared to just 34% of early-career marketers. This isn't just a gap – it's a canyon that's growing wider every day. Today, we're joined by Corbett Drummey, a pioneer in the creator economy and AI space. As part of Lightricks, which recently partnered with the American Marketing Association on this groundbreaking research, Corbett brings unique insights into this shifting landscape. His experience leading Popular Pays through its successful acquisition by Lightricks, and his current work developing AI tools for brand safety, puts him at the intersection of marketing leadership and technological innovation. AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton asked Corbett Drummey about: ✨ Reversed Adoption Pattern: Traditional bottom-up technology adoption is being replaced by executive-led AI integration. ✨ Training Determines Success: The growing training gap between leadership and staff is becoming a critical career factor. ✨ Bridge The Divide: Organizations must actively work to democratize AI access and training across all levels. Learn more about Corbett Drummey Connect with Corbett Drummey on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode Download The Full Report: https://www.lightricks.com/ama-survey AI Training available for employees Lightricks American Marketing Association Mastering AI Prompting: Advanced Techniques for Success with Ashley Gross Revolutionizing Visual Content: Generative AI in Action with Corbett Drummey AI as Your Co-Host: Unleashing NotebookLM’s Potential in Content Marketing AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/the-surprising-truth-about-ai-adoption-in-marketing-teams/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant at The Social Media Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping marketers with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    40 分
  • The AI Growth Engine: Accelerating Your Marketing Results with Cathy McPhillips
    2024/12/07
    Imagine having a marketing superpower that could analyze mountains of data, predict consumer behavior, and optimize your campaigns faster than you can say "AI." Well, guess what? That power exists, and it's revolutionizing the way we drive growth in marketing. You see, in today's hyper-competitive landscape, traditional marketing methods are about as effective as using a flip phone to browse TikTok. But there's a game-changing technology that's transforming marketing from a guessing game into a precise science. It's like having a crystal ball, but one that actually works. Now, you might be thinking, "Great, another tech buzzword to add to my marketing bingo card." But hold onto your hats, because AI in marketing isn't just hype – it's the hyperdrive for your growth strategies. And who better to be our Jedi Master in this AI-powered marketing galaxy than the incredible Cathy McPhillips? AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton asked Cathy McPhillips about: ✨ AI-Powered Precision: Enhancing targeting and personalization. ✨ Data-Driven Decisions: Leveraging AI for strategic insights. ✨ Scalable Growth Strategies: Automating and optimizing marketing efforts. Learn more about Cathy McPhillips Connect with Cathy McPhillips on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode Marketing AI Institute CMI (Content Marketing Institute) Descript MAICON (Marketing AI Conference) The Artificial Intelligence Show with Paul Roetzer and Mike Kaput Filling the Void: How AI Identifies and Closes Content Gaps with Andy Crestodina The H.U.M.A.N. AI Integration Framework: Bridging the Gap Between Technology and People Revolutionizing Visual Content: Generative AI in Action Mastering AI: The Future of Data-Driven Personalization in Marketing with Zontee Hou Intro to AI for Marketers AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/the-ai-growth-engine-accelerating-your-marketing-results/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant at The Social Media Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping marketers with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    44 分
  • From Boardroom to Bot Room: A Leader's Journey into AI Marketing with Lauren Schiavone
    2024/11/30
    Imagine stepping out of a Fortune 500 boardroom after 16 years, only to find yourself on the cutting edge of AI marketing and innovation. Sounds like a plot twist in a tech thriller, right? Well, for our guest today, it's not fiction – it's her extraordinary career path. In today's fast-paced marketing world, staying ahead often means embracing the unknown. But what happens when that unknown is as vast and complex as artificial intelligence? Many marketers find themselves at a crossroads, wondering how to bridge the gap between traditional strategies and this brave new world of AI. This is where our guest's journey becomes not just inspiring, but invaluable. Today, we have the privilege of speaking with Lauren Schiavone, a visionary leader who's made the leap from corporate titan to AI trailblazer. Lauren isn't just any former executive. With nearly two decades of consumer insights, brand, and sales leadership experience at Procter & Gamble, she's been the driving force behind some of the most recognizable brands in your home. Her work at P&G was consistently recognized as best-in-class, and she was even selected as one of Progressive Grocer Industry's Best and Brightest Under 40. But Lauren's story doesn't end in the corporate world. In a bold move, she stepped away from her prestigious role to dive headfirst into the world of AI. Now, as a consultant and thought leader, Lauren is on a mission to demystify AI for business leaders, particularly in the realms of consumer goods, brand innovation, and retail. What makes Lauren's perspective so unique is her ability to translate complex AI concepts into practical strategies that non-technical leaders can actually use. She's not just talking about AI – she's showing businesses how to enhance decision-making, drive innovation, and deliver business growth in tangible ways. AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton asked Lauren Schiavone about: ✨ Corporate Wisdom in AI: Understand how traditional business acumen enhances AI implementation in marketing. ✨ Practical AI Integration: Learn strategies for incorporating AI into existing marketing processes and teams. ✨ Future-Ready Marketing: Discover how to prepare marketing strategies for an AI-driven future while leveraging current strengths. Learn more about Lauren Schiavone Connect with Lauren Schiavone on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode Wonder Consulting Procter & Gamble (P&G) The AI Revolution is Here: What Every Marketer Needs to Know Finding Your Voice with AI – How to Craft a Brand Voice That Resonates Paving the Way: Strategies for Integrating AI in Marketing with Chris Penn The Artificial Intelligence Show Rufus Generative AI and Demographics: Trends for Marketers to Watch with Michael Nevski Liza Adams Paul Roetzer Ann Handley The H.U.M.A.N. AI Integration Framework: Bridging the Gap Between Technology and People AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/from-boardroom-to-bot-room-a-leaders-journey-into-ai-marketing/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    42 分
  • Elevating Product Marketing: The Game-Changing Role of AI with Gabe Wahhab
    2024/11/23
    Product Marketing Managers, let's face it: you're juggling a million tasks, from crafting compelling narratives to deciphering market trends, all while trying to stay ahead in an ever-evolving digital landscape. It's like trying to solve a Rubik's Cube while riding a unicycle - challenging, to say the least. But what if there was a way to not just keep up, but to leap ahead? Enter the game-changing world of AI, a tool that's revolutionizing the PMM playbook faster than you can say "go-to-market strategy." From ideation to copywriting, from research to those daily tasks that seem to multiply endlessly, AI is transforming how PMMs work. But how exactly are savvy professionals leveraging this technology to supercharge their efforts? That's exactly what we're about to unpack. To guide us through this AI-powered marketing revolution, we have a true expert in the field joining us today. I'm thrilled to welcome Gabe Wahhab to our show. Gabe is a growth-minded entrepreneur turned intrapreneur, with an impressive background in product marketing. He's worked with industry giants like HubSpot, where he played a key role in developing and implementing AI-driven marketing strategies. Gabe's unique blend of technical expertise and marketing acumen makes him the perfect guide to help us navigate the AI revolution in product marketing. AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton asked Gabe Wahhab about: ✨ AI-Powered Efficiency: Artificial Intelligence significantly boosts PMM productivity by automating routine tasks and streamlining complex processes. ✨ Enhanced Creativity: AI tools augment human creativity in ideation and content creation, leading to more innovative marketing strategies. ✨ Data-Driven Insights: AI enables PMMs to gather and analyze vast amounts of data quickly, informing more strategic decision-making. Learn more about Gabe Wahhab Connect with Gabe Wahhab on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode GabeWahhab.com HubSpot Agorapulse Finding Your Voice with AI – How to Craft a Brand Voice That Resonates with Mike Allton Custom GPTs for Marketers: Work Smarter, Not Harder with Mike Allton Gong Zoom 1Up How to Create 26 Pieces Of Content From A Facebook Live Content Remix Ruheene Jaura HeyLevi Product Marketing Alliance AI as Your Co-Host: Unleashing NotebookLM’s Potential in Content Marketing with Mike Allton Christopher Penn AI Use Cases for Ideal Customer Profiles AI Consulting AI Bootcamp AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/elevating-product-marketing-the-game-changing-role-of-ai/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant at The Social Media Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping marketers with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    43 分
  • Finding Your Voice with AI – How to Craft a Brand Voice That Resonates with Mike Allton
    2024/11/21
    Have you ever read a piece of content from a brand—maybe a blog, a social post, or even an email—and thought, “This just doesn’t sound right?” Maybe it felt robotic, overly generic, or like it could’ve been written by anyone. Here’s the reality: with the rise of AI tools in content creation, this is happening more often than ever. And it’s not just small businesses struggling to get it right—it’s big brands too. The problem? They haven’t defined their voice, and they’re expecting AI to read their minds. When your content doesn’t sound like you, it confuses your audience. It erodes trust and makes it harder to build lasting connections. And when AI gets it wrong—whether that’s a dry, lifeless tone or something wildly inconsistent—it doesn’t just fall flat. It can actively damage your brand. Think about it: every piece of content your audience sees shapes how they perceive you. If you don’t have a clear, consistent voice, you risk blending into the noise—or worse, alienating the people you’re trying to reach. But here’s the good news: with the right approach, you can create a voice that’s unmistakably yours, and—here’s the exciting part—you can teach AI to scale it. Today, we’re going to dive into why your brand voice matters, how to define it in collaboration with AI, and how to create custom instructions so that every blog, social post, and email feels authentically you. I’ll even share my own experience building a Custom GPT to reflect my voice and style, so you can see exactly how it’s done. AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton talked about: ✨ Why Your Brand Voice is Essential: Listeners will learn why a consistent and well-defined brand voice is critical for building trust, standing out, and ensuring that their audience connects with their content—whether it’s created by them or an AI. ✨ How to Define and Document Your Unique Voice: Listeners will get actionable insights into defining their brand’s tone, language, and style, including tips on identifying key traits and avoiding common pitfalls. Plus, they’ll discover how to translate that voice into clear guidelines that can be used across all their content. ✨ How to Collaborate with AI to Scale Your Voice: Listeners will walk away with practical steps for teaching AI tools like ChatGPT or Magai to reflect their unique voice. They’ll learn how to create custom instructions, refine AI outputs, and use these tools to save time while maintaining authenticity. Learn more about Mike Allton Connect with Mike Allton on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode Custom GPTs for Marketers: Work Smarter, Not Harder AI Consulting AI Bootcamp AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/finding-your-voice-with-ai-how-to-craft-a-brand-voice-that-resonates/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant at The Social Media Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping marketers with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    11 分
  • From Hype to Reality: Navigating the GSD Era of AI in Marketing with David Armano
    2024/11/16
    Have you ever felt overwhelmed by the constant buzz about AI in marketing? Are you tired of hearing grandiose promises but seeing little practical application? Well, buckle up, marketers, because today we're cutting through the noise and getting down to business. We're living in a world where AI seems to dominate every conversation in the marketing sphere. But let's face it – while the potential is enormous, many of us are still struggling to turn that potential into tangible results. It's time to move beyond the hype and into what our guest calls the "GSD Era" – that's "Get Shit Done" for those keeping score at home. The problem? Too many marketers are caught up in the AI hype cycle, chasing after shiny new tools without a clear strategy for implementation. This leads to wasted resources, confused teams, and disappointed executives. But what if there was a way to harness the true power of AI in marketing, delivering real, measurable results that impact your bottom line? That's where our guest comes in. Today, we're thrilled to welcome David Armano, a true visionary in the world of marketing and technology. David is a strategic and creative leader with extensive experience in marketing, known for his contributions to major publications like Forbes, Harvard Business Review, and Adweek. He's held leadership positions at several major marketing and consulting firms, and he's here to guide us through the transition from AI hype to AI reality. David has recently published a thought-provoking article on "Intelligent Experiences by Design," where he introduces the concept of the GSD Era in Enterprise AI Integration. He's at the forefront of predicting how AI will reshape our industry, and he's here to share his insights on how we can all become more effective marketers in this new landscape. AI in Marketing: Unpacked host Mike Allton asked David Armano about: ✨ Practical AI Implementation: Moving beyond hype to focus on tangible results in marketing. ✨ Evolving Skill Sets: The need for marketers to adapt and acquire new competencies in the GSD Era. ✨ Balancing Technology and Humanity: Leveraging AI while maintaining emotionally intelligent customer experiences. Learn more about David Armano Connect with David Armano on LinkedIn Connect with David Armano on X Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode About David Armano Intelligent Experiences By Design AI as Your Co-Host: Unleashing NotebookLM’s Potential in Content Marketing Dustin W. Stout AI and Copyright: What Marketers Need to Know with Mitch Jackson Custom GPTs for Marketers: Work Smarter, Not Harder AI Marketing Primer: A Comprehensive Guide for Marketers Explore past episodes of the AI in Marketing: Unpacked podcast SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://www.thesocialmediahat.com/blog/from-hype-to-reality-navigating-the-gsd-era-of-ai-in-marketing/ Start your AI journey with the AI Marketing Primer. Brought to you by The Social Media Hat - When One More Hat Is One Too Many. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant at The Social Media Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you’re interested in helping marketers with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Music by Tokay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    45 分