What does religious faith have to say about immigration, borders, and national identity?

Our panel tackles one of today's most polarizing moral questions with nuance and compassion, moving beyond typical political talking points to explore deeper ethical principles.

At the heart of our conversation is the theological concept of "Ordo Amoris" or the "Order of Love" – a principle suggesting our moral obligations naturally flow outward from self to family, community, nation, and beyond. Far from limiting our care for strangers, research suggests those who understand this ordering of charity are actually more generous to those in the outermost circles. As Rabbi Stuart explains through the concept of "concentric circles," we're naturally wired to prioritize those closest to us while still extending compassion outward.

The discussion takes fascinating turns as we explore what makes America unique – a place where, unlike most nations, anyone can truly become "American" by embracing certain ideals rather than being born into a specific ethnicity. We bring diverse perspectives, including personal immigrant experiences that illuminate the practical realities often missing from abstract policy debates.

When does a moral obligation to welcome the stranger encounter legitimate practical limitations? How do we balance compassion with responsibility? And what constitutes healthy patriotism versus blind nationalism?

These questions reveal how faith traditions can provide unique frameworks for addressing complex moral challenges that transcend typical partisan divisions.

Join us for this thought-provoking exploration of immigration ethics through multiple religious lenses. Whether you're seeking moral clarity on border policy or simply interested in how faith traditions approach contemporary ethical dilemmas, this episode offers refreshing insight without easy answers.

Tucked within ancient scriptures, philosophical musings, and even secular thought lies transformative wisdom that can change our perspective in an instant.

This episode invites you into an intimate exploration of the quotations that have profoundly shaped our hosts' spiritual journeys.

Rabbi Stuart shares his personal maxim—"Choose your theology carefully, because it will paint you into a corner you'll never get out of"—alongside the liberating perspective from Ecclesiastes that "time and chance happen to them all." This wisdom frees us from the theological trap that blames God or questions our worthiness when random misfortunes strike.

Rudy Kong offers "The magic you're looking for is in the work you're avoiding"—a secular gem with profound spiritual implications about how we procrastinate on the very things that would transform our lives. Father Mario Arroyo transports us into a powerful visualization of living for "an audience of one" in God alone, while Dr. David Capes unpacks C.S. Lewis's revolutionary understanding of humility as "thinking of yourself less" rather than "thinking less of yourself."

What begins as a simple sharing of favorite sayings evolves into a rich exploration of how we comprehend suffering through Job's questioning, the relationship between faith and reason, and the delicate balance between studying and thinking. These aren't mere quotable phrases but lifelines that have guided our hosts through their darkest doubts and greatest joys.

What pithy wisdom has become your life's cornerstone? Share your own guiding quotation with us and join our continuing conversation about the words that shape our faith journeys.

Why do humans crave tangible expressions of their faith? From the mark of ashes on foreheads to the kippah on a Jewish man's head, religious symbols offer powerful reminders of our spiritual commitments in a physical world.

Our conversation begins with Ash Wednesday and its curious popularity - it's not a day of obligation for Catholics, yet churches overflow with attendees seeking the traditional mark of ashes. Father Mario humorously describes "A&P Catholics" who attend only on Ash Wednesday and Palm Sunday, sparking a deeper discussion about what drives people to participate in these visible rituals.

The panel unpacks the meaning behind Lent's 40 days of fasting and reflection. Rather than punishment, this penitential season offers liberation from modern distractions that separate us from spiritual awareness. Rudy shares how fasting from comforts - whether food, social media, or entertainment - creates space for reconnection with what truly matters, while helping us empathize with those who suffer daily deprivation.

When Rabbi Stuart explains the kippah as a physical reminder of God's presence, the conversation expands to how religious symbols across traditions serve as tangible expressions of spiritual relationships. From crosses around necks to turbans worn by Sikhs, these embodied practices reflect a universal human need for physical reminders of transcendent realities.

David offers a profound insight: "None of us have ever seen a human being that didn't have a body." Our religious symbols acknowledge that faith isn't merely conceptual but lived through our physical experiences. The archeological evidence Rudy shares suggests humans have sought symbolic expressions of spiritual meaning since our earliest history.

Listen as our professor, priest, millennial and rabbi find surprising common ground in understanding how these outward expressions of faith help us navigate our mortality while connecting us to eternal truths. What symbols matter in your spiritual journey?