Anthony shares memories of living in poverty and foster care. Tonetta grew up in a middle-class family with a dad who knew how to work the system. The pastors explore how churches can ask for money without being manipulative. They agree that life is too short for single-ply toilet paper.

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• Personal money stories and family backgrounds
• The evolution of credit card usage
• Church fundraising practices - both ethical and problematic
• The spirituality of fundraising
• Stewardship and the common good
• Alternative economic systems within church communities

• Perichoresis - The mutual indwelling and relationship within the Trinity
• Stewardship vs. ownership
• The concept of "giving until it hurts"
• Trust and mutuality in financial relationships
• The relationship between capitalism and Christian giving

• "The Spirituality of Fundraising" by Henri Nouwen
• Works by Mia Birdsong
• "The Cost of Discipleship" by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
• The parable of the Widow's Mite (Mark 12)
• "The Great Divorce" by C.S. Lewis

"Life is too short for crappy toilet paper."

"Grace meaning that not the expectation of return a gift, meaning there are no strings attached and capitalism just, it strings everywhere."

"The forces of oppression are well funded."